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Why doesn't fuelly track expenses?
Sorry you got the wrong impression of the site. Fuelly doesn't track total cost of ownership, it tracks fuel economy. It's something we've considered in the past but we want to stay devoted to tracking fuel economy instead of creeping into other areas.
You can track maintenance with the Notes feature. You can add a description, odometer reading, and date. The idea is to record maintenance that could affect fuel economy. If you'd like you can record the cost in the description, but there isn't any sort of "total cost of maintenance" feature.
posted by pb January 17 at 8:04 PM
Fuelly Calculations
Hi, welcome.
How are the odometer and miles since last fuel up calculated? Is there an inherent difference in the end result of MPGs?
No, there's no difference in the long run. Take a look at this FAQ: What's the difference between tracking with Trip Miles vs. Odometer?
Is there a way to add multiple drivers for a car to compare driving habits?
Yes, you can share a car with another driver so that they can add fuel-ups as well. But there's no feature that compares the two different drivers in any way. One thing you could do is add a note to each fuel-up indicating who added it, and you use that to help you remember who did what, when. But the only information Fuelly is tracking is fuel-ups. There's no indication who was driving during a particular time period so I'm not sure a feature looking at two different people who added fuel to a vehicle would tell you much.
posted by pb January 16 at 9:33 AM
Great idea, great program, great site
Interesting, no, Gas Tracker is not our app.
posted by pb January 14 at 10:29 AM
what is the difference between the gas H4 and the hybrid H4?
There's no difference, you can choose either one. Before we had the 'hybrid' option, 'H4' was the only choice. We should standardize on one or the other to avoid this confusion, but until then you can pick either one. Here's more info about the engine codes we use: What do the engine type abbreviations such as L4 and V6 mean?
in the iPhone app clicking on my Prius kicks me out of the app entirely, why?
Can you elaborate on this a bit? We don't have a native app, so I assume you mean you're having trouble with the mobile site at m.fuelly.com. Can you describe what happens when you're kicked out? Do you get an error message or a blank screen? Do you need to log in again? Does the browser crash? Which version of iOS and which browser are you using?
my Prius doesn't show up anywhere else except on my own Fuelly page...
We only show cars with three or more fuel-ups in public browsing. We've found that average fuel economy is all over the map until a few fuel-ups in. Here's more info: Why isn't my car listed in the Browse Vehicles section of the site? I assume you were looking for your vehicle before it had three fuel-ups.
Your vehicle has three fuel-ups now and it's appearing in public browsing for me. For example, this page shows your vehicle.
posted by pb January 14 at 6:46 AM
Browsing Cars By Fuel Mileage
Just a reminder that we have filter controls at the top of model pages to show, for example, all diesel versions of a particular model. We could do the same for leaderboards if we had them.
posted by pb January 13 at 1:34 PM
I think that's a good way to do it. You can use Fuelly as a check against manufacturer or EPA estimates you already know.
We don't want to sort cars by mileage because that would encourage gaming the system. Once there's a leaderboard there will be people who want their car (or their favorite model) to be at the top of that leaderboard. We have some info about this here: Why don't you list everything in order of best fuel economy?
posted by pb January 10 at 9:11 PM
Not posting to Facebook
Sorry about the trouble. Facebook is frustrating for us too. We don't control anything on Facebook's side, so it's hard for us to troubleshoot problems like this. From our end, everything appears as if it's working smoothly. We don't get any errors back from Facebook. Our best guess is that when you change privacy settings at Facebook, it severs the link with Fuelly for one reason or another. Maybe Facebook wants to have the applications added under you new preferences, I don't know.
The key to resetting your Facebook/Fuelly connection is to remove Fuelly at Facebook and then re-add it. Resetting it on our end won't do anything until you remove the Facebook connection on their end.
So give that a shot. Go to Facebook, Account Settings, Apps, and completely remove Fuelly. Then go back to Fuelly and remove your Facebook connection and re-add it. Then add a test fuel-up to see if it's working.
posted by pb January 10 at 8:32 PM
Average price/gallon doesn't consider number of gallons actually purchased
Avg. Price/Mile is in the Cost Analysis stats on vehicle pages.
posted by pb January 7 at 4:28 PM
Miles Per Litre Stats
No, sorry, we don't have any plans to add this stat at this time.
posted by pb January 7 at 9:10 AM
Average price/gallon doesn't consider number of gallons actually purchased
Thanks for the suggestion, this sounds like a nice improvement. We'll give it some thought and probably add it to our to do list.
posted by pb January 6 at 8:30 PM
mpg ceiling
The MPG calculation just doesn't appear if it's over 200 US MPG. You're seeing values over 200 for individual fills because you're viewing the site in UK units.
We don't reject individual fuel-ups—they all contribute to the overall average.
posted by pb January 6 at 3:54 PM
Add driver to car already in garage, for shared car
Click on the edit vehicle link on the page for the vehicle you want to share. Scroll down all the way to the bottom of the page and click the Share button. Follow the steps from there.
posted by pb January 5 at 10:10 PM
mpg ceiling
Yeah, the 200 MPG limit is per individual fuel-up not overall average. Fuelly calculates overall average with total distance driven and total fuel filled, so it's not really connected to the individual fills.
The examples you point out are probably data entry errors.
posted by pb January 5 at 8:17 PM
Not posting to Facebook
Yeah, those are the usual steps to follow when you're having trouble. I don't think you're doing anything wrong.
Sometimes it takes a little while for the post show up on Facebook. Have you waited five minutes or so?
Does a fuel-up added via the website work for you? Or is it only fuel-ups added via SMS?
posted by pb January 4 at 2:51 PM
Erratic MPG
Yeah, you can do what works for you. I think this method of combining partials won't give you an accurate number because the size of your tank won't be consistant. You don't get an accurate "difference from full".
We've been over this a lot--across dozens of conversations here in the forum--so I'm not really interested in having this conversation again. There are absolutely many ways you can calculate your fuel economy, but I don't feel like this method is accurate. My partner at Fuelly, Matt, feels the same way. We have talked about this many, many times. If we felt this method of combining partials gave you an accurate MPG we would implement it, but we don't think it does.
I don't want to disuade you from doing it on your own if you feel like that number you get is reliable, but we don't want to build it into the system. We'd rather have a blank space in the list of fuel-ups than misleading calculations. We use total distance driven and total fuel filled for the overall average numbers, and that takes partials into account. So all data is being used for your overall averages, including partials.
posted by pb January 3 at 10:13 AM
Charting not up to date
Signature035, looks like you entered your latest fuel-up twice. Once with the correct year, once with the year 2012.
Take a look at your fuel log and scroll down to January 2012. You'll see your latest odometer reading. Remove that and you should be set.
posted by pb January 2 at 2:52 PM
Erratic MPG
Yes, it's the partial fuel-ups. You might want to take a look at this FAQ in particular:
Why doesn't my fuel-up have a calculated MPG (L/100km)?
This gives several reasons why you might not get an individual MPG calculated for any single fuel-up. You need two full fuel-ups in a row to get an individual calculation for a fuel-up.
As for entry 286, you have an unusual fueling pattern that revealed a problem with our system. You enter a partial fuel-up, and then a full fuel-up on the same day. Because our system gave precedence to the date--and you don't specify the time in your fuel-ups--it wasn't sorting the fuel-ups properly for calculation. I fixed that up and you should be set going forward.
But yeah, the lack of calculated fuel-ups is largely due to the large number of partial fuel-ups you have. You might also take a look at this FAQ entry:
Why do I have to fill the tank all the way up every time I buy fuel?
posted by pb December 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM
Charting not up to date
You can use the Contact Form to let us know something should be edited or deleted. If you'd like me to delete your comments just let me know.
posted by pb December 28, 2012 at 9:08 PM
Fuelly only charts individual fuel-ups with a calculated fuel economy number. Most of your fuel-ups are marked as partial, which means Fuelly does not calculate a fuel economy number for that fuel-up.
You might want to read through our FAQ to learn about how partial fuel-ups work. Here are a few places to start:
How do I account for partial fuel-ups?
Why do I have to fill the tank all the way up every time I buy fuel?
Why doesn't my fuel-up have a calculated MPG (L/100km)?
posted by pb December 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM
Request for a new unit of measurement for sig banner
We don't have any plans to do this right now, but we'll keep it in mind the next time we revisit signature banners.
posted by pb December 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM
Vehicle year - 2013
oh ok, then, yeah it's the three fuel-ups thing. You can click "show all" on the top right of the page to see all vehicles--even those without three fuel-ups. You should see the 2013 listings if you do that.
posted by pb December 21, 2012 at 12:59 PM
We don't track trim levels like LX publicly. You're free to track it that way if you want, it just won't be approved as its own unique model.
What you might want to do is change your model to a Civic. And then make sure you vehicle name or description mentions 'LX'. You also need at least three fuel-ups before your vehicle starts showing up in public browsing. We have bit more info the FAQ:
Why isn't my car listed in the Browse Vehicles section of the site?
posted by pb December 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM
mpg ceiling
Thanks for all of the extra info and feedback so far. This discussion has been very helpful.
posted by pb December 21, 2012 at 8:14 AM
Thanks for the extra info. Does the dashboard number change after every charge? So I guess I'm wondering does it list kWh for a specific timeframe or a specific charging action? I'm trying to know when would it be a natural time to jot down your electricity usage? After every charge? Once/month?
posted by pb December 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM
Does the EPA provide a place to report your kWh consumption? Maybe we could use them as a model if they've found a way to do it.
posted by pb December 20, 2012 at 11:04 AM
We don't support that because there's no unit of action associated with that. How do people measure kWh? Do they have meters on their electricity for that particular outlet so they know how many kilowatts they're specifically adding to their vehicle?
Adding electricity to a vehicle is not like adding fuel to a tank. There's no objective measure of how much you're adding.
posted by pb December 20, 2012 at 11:03 AM
I completely understand the impulse the record and share fuel consumption--it's why we built this site! I don't agree that it's completely meaningless, but I agree that MPG is only part of the equation with electric cars. It means that Fuelly isn't quite the right tool for electric car owners to use to track and share their consumption right now.
We hope to change that in the future, but until we find a way for people to report the whole picture they'll need to find another way to track.
posted by pb December 20, 2012 at 7:05 AM
Filters please
Yeah, I think that would be a nice alternative campisi. Something we'll think about.
posted by pb December 17, 2012 at 8:40 AM
Tow
I think having two vehicles would be fine if you don't care about accurate individual MPG calculations. Fuelly uses the difference from full for each fuel-up to calculate individual fuel-up MPG numbers. If you're splitting fuel-ups between two separate vehicles, those numbers won't be accurate. You'd have to mark a large percentage of fuel-ups as *missed* because the preceding fuel-up was entered at another vehicle.
I think notes are a good way to remember this data and let others know how much towing is happening as well.
posted by pb December 14, 2012 at 8:29 AM
mpg ceiling
For the time being, yes.
posted by pb December 14, 2012 at 8:15 AM
