Obviously not exactly a gassaving thread, but the summer temperatures here are sometimes just a bit too much so I am looking to get the AC in my VX going.
I stopped by a mechanica today who was so nice to look at it at no cost at all. He noticed that the compressor had seized and that I needed that new. As you are doing that you usually also replace the dryer he said. Condensor and fan looked newr and good so he said.
So the total cost would come to new compressor from Honda $512, Dryer, estaimted $100 and new pulley around $50, plus labor and recharging the system. All in all it was going in the direction of $900.
Now even though I do believe that it is worth investing an amount like that in a car if you plan to have it for years, I wondered if there were options to make this cheaper, so I looked on Craigslist and found someone who just took a working AC system of his '93 Civic and I can get his compressor/clutch and dryer for $50 plus shipping.
So if I were to use these used parts I would end up more in the neighborhood of maybe $350 or so which sounds a whole lot friendlier.
Now finally my question: are there any drawbacks in using a used compressor/clutch and dryer knowing that these worked fine untill the moment they were (recently) taken off?
I repaired the A/C in my 92 VX with a lot of work but fortunately not too much $$$$. I wrote a long story about my experience but Firefox crashed on me and it was lost in cyberspace. Oh well. The following is the best thing you can do instead of trying to repair an old existing system which is hit or miss.
My advice is to try to find a new R134A A/C kit from a 1998 to 2000 Civic somewhere and do a completely new install. You might be able to find one for $500 or so and you can be certain it will work great. It should fit your VX with minor modifications.
Actually having a honda, you should find plenty of "ricer" forums where they're selling off stuff from "A/C delete, yo! 5 more HP!"
I'd lean towards keeping older R-12 compatible parts and running it with propane in it, for really chilly and more fuel efficient air though. But some people freak at the idea of having propane in it....50lbs of gasoline following behind them, pressurised butane in their pocket (lighter) gas running under their feet and all round the engine bay, gas vapors too, being fed to the charcoal canister... but don't put a couple of pounds of propane in the AC, that's DANGEROUS... yeah like you'd be thrilled to have an R134A leak either.
I remember The RoadWarrior..To understand who he was, you have to go back to another time..the world was powered by the black fuel & the desert sprouted great cities..Gone now, swept away..two mighty warrior tribes went to war & touched off a blaze which engulfed them all. Without fuel, they were nothing..thundering machines sputtered & stopped..Only those mobile enough to scavenge, brutal enough to pillage would survive. The gangs took over the highways, ready to wage war for a tank of juice
you need a NEW reciever dryer any time the system is open or depressurized for more than a few minutes. there's a dessicant inside to remove moisture from the AC system. A drop will destroy the system (compresser and other parts) in less than a season. I had the joy of pulling a compresser off a combine that had moisture in it from nothing more than an open hose for a few hours and the compresser was gone. that being said, there's no reason to spend $100 on them... more like <$30 for most cars. Getting one used off another car is bad!
If someone has a compressor from another car, that's fine to get used.
-Reciever-Dryer for $15-50
-R134a conversion kit: $50 (o-rings, oil, and new fittings)
-in-line filter: $25 (very good idea given the condition of your system)
propane.... works great but it's illegal and basically you'd have to do it yourself because of it. the EPA fines heavily if they find out.
1991 Toyota Pickup 22R-E 2.4 I4/5 speed
1990 Toyota Cressida 7M-GE 3.0 I6/5-speed manual
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"You don't get to judge me for how I fix what you break"
Only 40 minutes from home at a time I wasn't even looking for one anymore
Gotta put a $67 piece of weather stripping on the front windshield for it to look really good, but it is definately in very decent shape. So they're still out there.
Price you paid.
Known issues other than the A/C that need repair.
A word of warning about repairing an A/C system that had a known compressor failure - you could have metal shavings from the blown compressor in the lines that might have clogged up the expansion valve in the evaporator. Bee careful.
Other than the start of rust in the usual place on the passenger side - the car looks great!