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Old 07-17-2010, 04:06 AM   #31
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Well, to be honest I thought that was the case, but apparently there is some debate after trying to research that as it appears Exxon/Mobil, perhaps QS, and/or Valvoline all have some part to play in "Super Tech" motor oils. To what extent? I don't really know. I didn't mean to get off topic, but had heard that from another poster on here and didn't think to challenge that comment since I never use the stuff.

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http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_manufa..._synthetic_oil

Among other forum discussions like these.
I believe BITOG has SuperTech all figured out. A quick googling reminds me that Warren Distribution is cited as the company making SuperTech oils.

I asked mainly because I found the idea of using recycled Mobil1 interesting. How would you get used Mobil1 to recycle? Used motor oil isn't kept separated by brand and tracked, it's all dumped into a big tank (along with other used oils).

While hoping to find out, I found this:
According to http://www.recycleoil.org/faqs/index.html#5 :
4. What is recycled motor oil used for?
Used motor oil can be reprocessed into fuel that can be used in furnaces for heat, or in power plants to generate electricity for homes, schools and businesses. It can also be used in industrial and utility boilers, blended for marine fuels, and other uses. Used motor oil can also be re-refined into lubricating oils that meet the same API specifications as virgin motor oil.

6. Where can I buy re-refined oil?
Contact your automotive suppliers or local retailers and ask if they carry re-refined oil. For more information, please click here.


That site implies that recycled motor oil is made but is not common. My relative's garage has a waste oil burner and the collected waste oils from vehicles are what heats his garage all winter.
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Old 07-17-2010, 07:01 AM   #32
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Wal-Mart used to carry re-refined motor oil. It used to be in a black bottle with a huge eagle on the front label. Since I don't buy the stuff I don't pay much attention though. I don't know what type of maintenance my truck had before I bought it, but since I bought it with 108,000 miles on it I've run nothing but Mobil1 oils exclusively. I experience some mild piston slap when the engine is cold from sitting overnight, and the outside temp is below ~25F. It generally goes away after a moment, but it is there. If I remember correctly this started somewhere around 165,000 miles, but it is extremely rare that we get temps that low in my area, so it doesn't happen all that often. I think using the Mobil1 0W30 probably helps minimize this as it circulates quickly through the engine when cold.
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If you want to not feel cheap, here's how my 2002 GMC has been treated for the past 195,000 miles:

1. Until about 170,000 I'd go to one of 3 different mechanics or a quick lube place and let them put in whatever dinosaur juice they use. I did that when "Change engine oil" displayed on the dash - generally 5,000 to 7,000 miles. Sometimes I procrastinated for as much as another 3,000 miles.

2. Since then I've been doing it myself using SuperTech High Mileage 5w30 dinosaur juice and SuperTech filters. I do it twice a year. I drive the truck all winter and mostly park it in the summer. "Change engine oil" usually comes on after the winter but obviously not after the summer. This year I did not change it after winter and the message hasn't come on yet. I'll be changing it soon.

Result: Starts and runs as strong and efficient at 195,000 miles as it ever has. On cold mornings in the winter it has some piston slap, which is functionally insignificant but does sound kinda yucky (like a diesel), until it warms up slightly (10 to 30 seconds). On my most recent oil change I switched to Valvoline High Mileage and the piston slap got worse so I'll be switching back to SuperTech.
WOW that's weird,I drive a 2001 GMC 4WD ext cab long bed that's my company's and I do pretty much the same thing. What ever dino juice they have at the local auto service station is fine for me. It has just over 200,000 miles on it and has had the cold start piston slap from day one when it was purchased new. It still doesn't use any oil between changes and still runs strong.
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GM wasn't playing when they designed and built our trucks. They were built to last, without requiring any special attention beyond the recommended maintenance schedule.
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On the note of recycled or re-refined oils, I remember seeing quarts of some in an AutoZone nearby here, but can't recall the brand. It was definitely with the idea of 'environmental friendly', and was encouraging people to recycle oil on the bottle for sell itself.

@ HC, I totally didn't realize how funny that sounded until you spun it around. All used oil IS just thrown in those big tank together.
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My comment is about the video-
I run Mobil 1 in my vx, and change it every 10k. It does in fact look better at 10k than any conventional oil at 3k.
However, I have two quibbles with the video; one is that they used a luxury car for the test. I would have liked to see a working man's car like the ford escort or something. It would have been more realistic.
Two- This car was not driven under normal circumstances with dust, dirt, etc. It saw no contamination of any kind to that oil throughout the test. That is far from the reality of modern cars. Every oil change the oil is full of contaminates from dust, debris, moisture, etc.

That said, I still run it happily.
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totally w/ ya on that. i have one as well...why is 0w30 not avail as an EP. haven't seen one, and obviously it is avail as a non-EP. cannot imagine a better application than a fully syn 0w30.
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Now that you've mentioned it, you're right. I've never seen EP 0W30.
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Well, if Amsoil's SSO 0w-30 can be considered "EP", it is rated beyond their normal 25k mile service internal to 35k.

"EP" in my book. If we're talking strictly Mobil1, yes, I wish Mobil1 would have an "EP" 0w-30. My friend would probably buy the 5w-20 "EP" if they sold it in 5Q jugs more like the 5w-30. Forcing to go individual quarts isn't bad, just misses on a potential overall value savings. He runs 0w-20 in his Fit.
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A few oil articles I did some reading on, warning long reads:

Scientific break-down?

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136052

Some Amsoil guy, but knows his stuff -

http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-foru...tic-oil-2.html
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both VERY good links. the first guy doesn't mention comparing all grades of synthetics tho. i once saw an independent study showing that amsoil has the highest flash point of any oil IN ALL GRADES(weights). and it had the lowest pour point as well.

so either side of the equation is covered. apparently the first guy believes the viscosity is not an issue under operating conditions. well, synthetics have the best start-up lube so...

they both believe in syn superiority and the second illustrates what i've been saying or years...that syn extended intervals actually SAVE MONEY(not to mention time) long term!
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