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Old 09-08-2008, 11:36 AM   #1
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:40 AM   #2
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that sucks. I would get one if I were in europe
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:57 AM   #3
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I would TOTALLY buy that car!

Looks like that design is coming over here to replace the current Focus. I think I may hold out on the new car for a bit! Even if it is gas that car is kinda slick!
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I would never buy a dirty diesel like that when the fuel costs 25% more than gasoline. I would be much more impressed with a gasoline engine that gets 52mpg.
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the fact is we won't see a car that gets 52mpg in the states, nor will we see this car in the states.

and diesel only runs 15-20% higer around here. gas hit over 4 at the max (I think it was 4.25) but diesel never hit 5. not around here that I remember
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:39 PM   #6
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I will not weep. I'll just move countries.
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the fact is we won't see a car that gets 52mpg in the states, nor will we see this car in the states.

and diesel only runs 15-20% higer around here. gas hit over 4 at the max (I think it was 4.25) but diesel never hit 5. not around here that I remember
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I would never buy a dirty diesel like that when the fuel costs 25% more than gasoline. I would be much more impressed with a gasoline engine that gets 52mpg.
Uneducated opinions like that are why they will not come to the USA. Diesel technology has made Diesel burn as clean or better than gasoline. A Diesel Hybrid would be the best combo available right now...then a small diesel...then a gasoline hybrid...then a gas sipper.
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That's fine by me. Fewer diesels here means more diesel fuel supply. More diesel fuel supply means less pressure on the biodiesel supply I prefer.
You go on driving your 58 mpg gasoline-electric Insight and I'll drive my 50 mpg (50.224 on a recent 900 mile trip) 2005 Passat wagon on B100.
Want to compete on a total (including greenhouse gas) gram per mile emission rate? You'll need to get the gasoline powered vehicle up to 200 mpg to be greener.
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