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Old 07-24-2007, 03:31 PM   #21
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o yessssss....the job of COZx2 is fantastic, and your MPG confitme he.

about the virtual fairing, I haved only reported the declarations of constructor...one wave of inspiration!
very good, it wasn't clear if you were asserting this will help or asking, and really only testing will tell if a mod helps someones car or not. Inspiration=good, hopefully someone is inspired enough to try it and document the results.

Here's the probe CO mentioned, kinda looks like old reliable too
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:17 PM   #22
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fabrio, I beg to disagree with your statement on the ZX2.

ZX2 does permit full range steering, lock to lock.

Concerning your statement that the design is not aerodynamically good, the 1985 Ford Probe V concept car has the lowest CD ever for a 4+ passenger car. CD .137, Probe V was factory built and wind tunnel tested.

Probe V featured full wheel fairings, both front and rear.

1985 Probe V has been my guide in modifying my car, Old Reliable(CO ZX2).

oh, oh!

sorry: repeat, my Engliss is bad

your aeromods is fantastic, I think: aerodynamic of your car is MORE good of citroen!

"front splitter" of citroen isin't good lyke the front skirt of your Old Reliable.
it is comprehensible now?

I did not imagine that your machine could steer well therefore....sorry, can you post an image with turned steering please?
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I did not imagine that your machine could steer well therefore....sorry, can you post an image with turned steering please?
fabrio, here you go. Light not good for left side photo.

Fully turned, outside edge of tire is about 7" outside of fender.


Both pics taken with steering cramped all the way to the right.


fabrio, I would like to congratulate you on your research and comments. You have created a very interesting discussion here. Thank you.
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My compliments to the seamstress. :-)
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My compliments to the seamstress. :-)
Bill, Virginia thanks you. We had some tense moments working on these together. We laugh now but we growled a little back then. No sewing now required. Found contact cement that works great and a heck of a lot quicker and easier. I have never had glue hold much of anything before!
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skewbe, do you suppose your pic of the Probe could be a drawing? I don't think I have seen that particular pic before. There are substantial design differences shown in your pic and my pic, which I know to be a real car. Ford made a few, not sure how many, the grape car above survives today.

The Probe was a multi-year project for Ford. The engineers and designers probably changed their minds many, many times. I would like to see a photo of the Probe V with the front wheels turned. Must make quite a lump in that beautiful fender. Hope none of those designers ever see Old Reliable.

Thanks for your comments. Be nice to fabrio or he may make us talk to him in Italian language. Can you imagine that?
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skewbe, do you suppose your pic of the Probe could be a drawing? I don't think I have seen that particular pic before. There are substantial design differences shown in your pic and my pic, which I know to be a real car. Ford made a few, not sure how many, the grape(?) car above survives today.

The Probe was a multi-year project for Ford. The engineers and designers probably changed their minds many times. I would like to see a photo of the Probe V with the front wheels turned. Must make quite a lump in that beautiful fender.

Thanks for your comments. Be nice to fabrio or he may make us talk to him in Italian language. Can you imagine that?
I think skewbe got the picture from this website :

http://www.geocities.com/conceptcarcentral/

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I think skewbe got the picture from this website :

http://www.geocities.com/conceptcarcentral/

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Carlo, thanks. What a great site. I found info I had never been able to find before. Did you read the fine print for the various Probes? Motorized adjustable height air dam, rear body raised 6" at speed, and more. Wow!

I did not see skewbe's pic on the site, but I saw mine of the grape car.
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I went to http://images.google.com and searched for: 1985 ford probe v

I was hoping to see the probe with its front wheels turned, I thought I saw mention of flexable panels, but those look pretty solid.
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those look pretty solid.
I was thinking the same thing...
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