California to ban traditional light bulbs? - Fuelly Forums

Click here to see important news regarding the aCar App

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 01-31-2007, 06:30 AM   #1
Driving on E
 
Matt Timion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,110
Country: United States
California to ban traditional light bulbs?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/energy_ca..._lightbulbs_dc

Quote:
A California lawmaker wants to make his state the first to ban incandescent lightbulbs as part of California's groundbreaking initiatives to reduce energy use and greenhouse gases blamed for global warming.

The "How Many Legislators Does it Take to Change a Lightbulb Act" would ban incandescent lightbulbs by 2012 in favor of energy-saving compact fluorescent lightbulbs.
__________________

Matt Timion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2007, 08:34 AM   #2
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 125
Country: United States
i guess that confirms i will never move to california, flourescent lights suck!
__________________

white90crxhf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2007, 08:57 AM   #3
QDM
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 128
Country: United States
I guess you have never tried compact fluorescent lights. They use 1/5 the power of an incandescent light and I'll bet you couldn't tell the difference in the light they produce. I've been using them exclusively for over 15 years.

Q

"i guess that confirms i will never move to california, flourescent lights suck!"
QDM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2007, 09:03 AM   #4
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 113
Country: United States
I guess a lot of Californians will be driving around without functional headlamps in a few years.
__________________
GasSavers_Bruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2007, 10:33 AM   #5
*shrug*
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,195
Country: United States
Go go california!
SVOboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2007, 10:59 AM   #6
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,978
Country: United States
Big Problem and a Solution

They have a serious problem with rolling blackouts in the Summer and power companies out-of-State ripping them off. If the end-user doesn't preserve the grid, then legislation has to.

I don't like "traditional" fluorescents, either - but the new, compact versions have a warmer look -- I've replaced 90% in the house with these, and after a while, you only notice that they're brighter and don't create as much heat.

I agree with the idea, but they should have a provision of making them more affordable (subsidies, etc), as they can be costly up-front for the average income. If it goes through, perhaps they'll be cheaper nationwide, which is also a good thing.

I can see it now in 2012: on "Cops" they'll have incandescent bulb sting operations...

RH77
__________________
rh77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2007, 11:10 AM   #7
Supporting Member
 
cfg83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,779
Country: United States
Hello -

My Mom used to buy the ugly/clunky circular flourescents in the 1970's after the energy crunch, so I have always been flourescent. When I met my future wife she was incandescent-only, but made the transition to flourescent.

My only complaint is their reliability. Sometimes they last as long as they claim, but sometimes they burn-out early. And *never* buy the light-level switchables, they burn out fast. The best thing to do is watch for the incentives. Sometimes you can get them for as-cheap or cheaper than incandescents. In that situation, it's a no-lose proposition.

I think the legislation isn't smart because it is an easy target for the GOP to attack. Incentives and penalties are the way to go. Cheap flourescents and "gross use" electric bill taxes.

CarloSW2
__________________
Old School SW2 EPA ... New School Civic EPA :

What's your EPA MPG? https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorSelectYear.jsp
cfg83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2007, 11:37 AM   #8
Moderator
 
GasSavers_DaX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,209
Country: United States
I just bought a new home in October 2006 and it came filled with incandescents. As each bulb burns out, we're going through and replacing them with compact fluorescent bulbs.

I CAN tell the difference between fluorescent and incandescent from what I've seen, but the fluorescent units are getting better. The main difference I see is that the fluorescent bulb takes a few seconds to reach peak light output, while the incandescent instantly has the max light output.

The first place I put compact fluorescent bulbs was in my garage door opener. Even heavy duty incandescents were burning out quick due to vibrations.
GasSavers_DaX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2007, 12:29 PM   #9
Tuggin at the surly bonds
 
Silveredwings's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 839
Country: United States
I bet LEDs will eventually replace flourescents. It may take a while to get them bright enough, but they should eventually be cheaper to manufacture.
__________________
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. - Albert Einstein
Silveredwings is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2007, 08:06 PM   #10
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 125
Country: United States
compact fluorescent lights? shows my ignorance, when i bought my house a few years ago the kitchen had a old circular style flourescent light, it was terrible.

i bought some GE lights that only use 17watts but supposedly put out light equal to a 60watt, i am not impressed with them, even if they do last 8 years.

I will look for some of these compact flouresent light bulbs and give them a try.
__________________

white90crxhf is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Still don't understand "partial fuel-ups" ColorfulTones Fuelly Web Support and Community News 6 12-31-2011 12:15 AM
MPG versus air temperature and Altitude MensaMike General Fuel Topics 6 06-21-2011 05:16 AM
Testing Exhaust Systems on my CRX SVOboy Experiments, Modifications and DIY 8 08-06-2006 12:57 PM
Cool Website for Honda guys GasSavers_Jack General Fuel Topics 9 06-12-2006 06:46 PM
Any ideas how to install this? Compaq888 General Maintenance and Repair 0 12-21-2005 12:46 PM

» Fuelly iOS Apps
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.