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Old 08-14-2018, 10:44 PM   #1
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Best value EV, the Kona

Been hearing lots of praise about the new compact crossover from Hyundai, the Kona electric. With the larger battery pack, it beats anything for value, even the Model 3. It has some amazing features, plenty of semi autonomous technology, even has a coast mode so you can disengage regen and build up speed down hills if you wish. The strength of regen can be altered using paddles on the steering wheel, there's a head up display, it even tells you how many miles you're adding instantly to the battery during regen. It also tells you your attention level and when you last had a break, and how much c02 you're instantaneously saving at your current speed. I really like this car and all the features, a far better choice than the new leaf. Its quite easy to get over 300 miles on a charge too. With 200 BHP, its not exactly slow either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq3OoZoUZBA
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It's a great motor. Just a pity it has such an ugly front end, The ICE varieties, with a grill, look so much nicer, but I suppose the change is to make it more slippery and economical. We will probably get use to that on EVs (remember the reaction to the first Ford Sierra, now that look is common place).
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That's an interesting review. Here they are claiming 250 miles range which is about 400km I think. Not sure what the difference(s) are to cut 20% or so from the range.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/03/28/...range-0032856/
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Different test procedures basically, it's rated at 274 miles here, but as the video demonstrated above, 300+ miles is easily achievable. The lower KWH battery pack here gets around the 200 mile mark I think.
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The difference could easily just be in the different test used; EPA vs. NEDC.
EPA is going to be closer to what most people will actually see.
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A new car for Europe should now be WLTP I believe, not NEDC.
WLTPfacts.eu - Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure
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Yes WLTP is far more accurate, takes place in real world conditions, and is much closer to the EPA ratings.
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A new car for Europe should now be WLTP I believe, not NEDC.
WLTPfacts.eu - Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure
That doesn't stop a manufacturer from using other test results before the official numbers are released.

JC08 is the current test in Japan, and is worst than NEDC. From time to time, you'll see quotes still using the older and easier 10-15 cycle.

WLTP is still new enough to assume numbers in the press aren't it. I've only heard of Honda actually moving all their testing to it.
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By law, all cars sold in the EU after September 2018 must be tested to the WLTP standard. This is the UK brochure for cars due to be delivered after that date.
https://www.hyundai.co.uk/new-cars/kona-electric
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Does the WLTP standard have separate city and highway tests?
300 miles is a bit higher than the EPA 274.
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