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Old 10-10-2007, 01:40 PM   #781
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Thanks. I called a Kingsway broker today and gave them the info - still waiting to hear back. Interestingly, 1) they didn't seem fazed by the request, and, 2) they didn't specifically ask who did the conversion - first company not to specifically ask that. As a specialty vehicle insurer, they probably just assume I did it.

BTW - nice to meet you and your son on the weekend. Hope you had an efficient drive home, and had somewhat more than 9.1 peak kW (12 hp) on tap! (that's 190 amps @ 48v nominal - is that what we saw? I should have written it down.)
It was a fun ride/drive! My son was very impressed. I forgot to tell my better half that he wasn't in a booster seat and was in an uninsured vehicle as we hit 195+ going uphill! hehe

I noticed 200 or a needle width less on the first ascent and it did hit 195+ when we looped around to confirm that. Close enough...

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Old 10-10-2007, 02:37 PM   #782
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Not a problem. 195+ uphill - that's funny.
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:02 AM   #783
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I was hoping/figuring they'd know who you should call... good stuff.

In terms of power 12 hp isn't bad, but I'd almost consider that as what you need per person, and in that regard perhaps consider the Swift as something along the lines of a 2, 3 or 4 seater. With 400 amps and 72 volts, you'd have a 36 hp very green solution for my daily commute. I'll even clean the garage out for it!

I ride a 10 car commuter train that holds 1200 people and the locomotive has about 5000 hp. That's 12 hp per person. It's gets up to 85 mph/140 kph pretty quick, but unfortunately has to rely upon massive disk brakes instead of regen, and I worry about commuter train asbestiosis - who know what's in those pads? Back to motive power though, most scooters with around 12 hp seem to work quite well.

It's funny when I think about the 9.1 KW peak energy. At 3413 BTUs per kWh, that rate of heat (30,000 BTUs) would make a good water heater (double the recovery of a normal electric water heater), keep a mid-sized normally insulated Canadian home warm in all but the coldest of weather or heat an outdoor BBQ grill.
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:11 AM   #784
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I am increasingly starting to believe that a lower voltage system is going to be the way to go with my conversion. Although I don't want to fart around with a mess of used parts, just limiting the system to 72 volts cuts costs dramatically. I figure the entire conversion including adapters and accessory electronics could all be done for $2500-$3000 using all new parts. And that would provide a top speed of around 40-45 in my MR2 (which is all I need).

Hunting up a used motor and other accessories could cut that by half or more.
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I'm really hoping you have good news today, metrompg.

An aside, this guy is claiming 50mph on a 36v metro, on a 6HP (at 48v) Forklift Motor, does that sound likely?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=260166974714
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Yeah, I was considering just not telling them (or lying), but the potential consequences and the thought of dealing with the ins. co. in that situation isn't very appealing. It would be a last case option.
Yeah, the last thing you want is to get in an accident - the insurance company takes a look and says "Sorry, your insurance policy doesn't match this car."

I mean, I4 to a v6 engine - you theoretically could claim ignorance "Isn't that the "v4 engine or something? I don't know much about cars" - but that might not work :/
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Yay!

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Just got back from an errand run.
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Found it skewbe: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Geo-M...QQcmdZViewItem

Same car sold in July for $1k as a "fixxer upper".
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