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Old 05-05-2006, 10:55 AM   #11
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are they coming out with

are they coming out with something new for 2007, maybe updated XB?
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:26 AM   #12
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fit

I would only buy a fit with the diesel personally. It has a very nice torque curve. Bense on Honda-Tech showed me the light to this website

http://asia.vtec.net/Series/FitJazz/lseries/
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Old 05-05-2006, 01:29 PM   #13
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Rumor is a new body for 2008 maybe - extended trunk - not sure - or maybe a BB lower roof line like it was chopped.
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Looking at the fit, I think

Looking at the fit, I think I'd get a hybrid version of it. I like how much room is in the back with the seat down.

Now, a hybrid diesel Fit? I'm dreaming.
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Old 05-05-2006, 02:45 PM   #15
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diesel fit

Who has made a diesel hybrid? It would be amazing to see that combo.
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Old 05-05-2006, 03:37 PM   #16
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VW makes the Golf ECO.power

VW makes the Golf ECO.power in Europe. Gets a whole 15% better FE than a straight up diesel. VW doesn't like hybrids though, so yakno.
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ECO.power

Impressive. I always wonder why that many more brands wouldn't do this too. But I think in the end it would add too much cost to the buyer. How does it sell in Europe?
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Old 05-05-2006, 05:57 PM   #18
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I've never seen any sales

I've never seen any sales statistics. I didn't particularly care since VW doesn't like hybrids I figure their hybrids aren't worth paying attention to. It's very new also, I wrote an article involving it but it was pre-consumer launch. I wonder though.
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bad rep

for all the bad rep that the current gasoline hybrids get as of now, I dont see any disel hybrid getting a better review. Maybe even worse...I guess you could consider it a double step of sorts. Why would a person want to bite the bullet of switching from gasoline to disel (which is significant)...and then to the hybrid powertrain?

It all depends on fuel prices. Economists would change their mind about the benifit of hybrids at say...$5.
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Well, in europe it's

Well, in europe it's obvious. Over half of all cars in europe are being sold as diesels, so it's not really making the double switch. VW's philosophy is that diesel is the future and not hybridization, but they kinda got forced into making the hybrid through market pressure, so they did, *shrug*
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