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Old 03-20-2009, 04:02 AM   #11
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I've been trying to avoid posting this, but I can't resist...


WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!
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Old 03-20-2009, 04:10 AM   #12
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...but taking it seriously, I don't think the windmill ruse is for the sake of getting your neighbors to accept it. I think it's to distract the potential buyer from the fact that the product is impossible.

After all, every time I hear "windmill", it's shortly followed by "NIMBY!" from potential neighbors. OTOH, why would a magical device pulling energy from the earth's magnetic fields need to be visible at all? Why not just stick it in your basement or attic or tool shed and not annoy your neighbors at all?
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Old 03-20-2009, 04:44 AM   #13
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If you need less than that, you send power back to the grid. Depending on your usage, at the end of the month, your power company will probably owe you for the net amount you've sent back to them.
That doesn't happen. Anything you put into the grid is too dirty for them to try to use, and your meter will NOT go backwards when you put juice into the grid.

Somebody's smoking some strong stuff.
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OTOH, why would a magical device pulling energy from the earth's magnetic fields need to be visible at all? Why not just stick it in your basement or attic or tool shed and not annoy your neighbors at all?
I was thinking the same thing.
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Old 03-20-2009, 06:05 AM   #15
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alright more free energy scams! whats wrong with violating the laws of thermodynamics? remember, "laws are made to be broken"!!!


FYI: you can't get energy from magnets or the earth's magnetic field. magnets produce a force, not energy. two very different things.
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Old 03-20-2009, 06:58 AM   #16
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That doesn't happen. Anything you put into the grid is too dirty for them to try to use, and your meter will NOT go backwards when you put juice into the grid.

Somebody's smoking some strong stuff.
That's one of the few claims that aren't complete nonsense. Net metering really exists. For example, in Massachusetts:
https://www.nationalgridus.com/masse.../4_net-mtr.asp
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:23 AM   #17
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If you wanna read some really wacko stuff you should read more of that site. They have everything from acetone in the fuel to all-magnet motors to fuel less combustion engines. My favorite is the heater that uses electrolysis to great the fuel it burns to heat instead of just heating an element.

They do, however, have a couple of ideas that I think are really interesting but you have to wade through a lot of garbage to get to them, like the hydroelectric generator that uses the whirlpool effect to make up for a lack of head and is supposed to be much safer for fish.
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:09 AM   #18
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I always thought it be fun to have a windmill hooked to a compressor for a ground source heat pump to produce hot water. Store it in a tank and heat your house with it! Winters here are insanely windy.
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:48 AM   #19
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LMAO on a side note i am currently watching futurama
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That doesn't happen. Anything you put into the grid is too dirty for them to try to use, and your meter will NOT go backwards when you put juice into the grid.

Somebody's smoking some strong stuff.
.... yes it does, i have watched it with solar panels

but they dont give you money for it. it just counts as a credit toward your next bill.
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