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Old 09-09-2007, 03:50 PM   #121
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We have a problem. We all know that. To not see it. Is well,,, stupid.

How do we fix it? Damed if I know! Save a bit on gas? Cut back on electric usage? I'm a hypermiler for gods sake! Ive cut back on my electric usage. Not much but Im down from 8 fish tanks to 4. And even there filters are on timers.

Maybe we all need to go to geo thermal, solar and wind power. Great!!!

I work with geo daily. Its a cluster. Sure its saves on fuel on the front end. But from what Ive seen its a $$$$ monster on the back side. A over complex near worthless system except in certain parts of the world. Radiant floor. Yeah its good if you like living in a dry sauna. I sell that junk also.

I take my lunches to work. Eat at my desk unless I'm in the field or with a cust. At which time I buy meals. Is my wife waisting energy rinsing my ziplocks for a extra use? Or the bowls I heat on the dash of the car when I'm out tuning a system and no lunch and learn needs to be done? I dont even drive a company owned work truck 98% of the time when I need to be in the field.

What in the world do I need to do? Move to Tulsa and subject my wife to a small metro full of thugs and deviants? Subject my wife, children and grandchildren to a plethora of idiot humans?

Do I need to be in favor of coughing up another 33% more of my income to take care of this issue? Like the 33% I already pay,,, without major ***** isn't enough! Or would a upgrade in social and protection issues under the law be included? Like the government in any country or time of history has ever been eff. with my money. Yours maybe? To listen to some folks they have to have a government do there bidding. Cradle to grave... Is that what we need? Lets revamp the UN and make it work as a world model.

What in the hell do I need to do?

What would make you happy?
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:09 PM   #122
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very to the point

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We have a problem. We all know that. To not see it. Is well,,, stupid.

How do we fix it? Damed if I know! Save a bit on gas? Cut back on electric usage? I'm a hypermiler for gods sake! Ive cut back on my electric usage. Not much but Im down from 8 fish tanks to 4. And even there filters are on timers.

Maybe we all need to go to geo thermal, solar and wind power. Great!!!

I work with geo daily. Its a cluster. Sure its saves on fuel on the front end. But from what Ive seen its a $$$$ monster on the back side. A over complex near worthless system except in certain parts of the world. Radiant floor. Yeah its good if you like living in a dry sauna. I sell that junk also.

I take my lunches to work. Eat at my desk unless I'm in the field or with a cust. At which time I buy meals. Is my wife waisting energy rinsing my ziplocks for a extra use? Or the bowls I heat on the dash of the car when I'm out tuning a system and no lunch and learn needs to be done? I dont even drive a company owned work truck 98% of the time when I need to be in the field.

What in the world do I need to do? Move to Tulsa and subject my wife to a small metro full of thugs and deviants? Subject my wife, children and grandchildren to a plethora of idiot humans?

Do I need to be in favor of coughing up another 33% more of my income to take care of this issue? Like the 33% I already pay,,, without major ***** isn't enough! Or would a upgrade in social and protection issues under the law be included? Like the government in any country or time of history has ever been eff. with my money. Yours maybe? To listen to some folks they have to have a government do there bidding. Cradle to grave... Is that what we need? Lets revamp the UN and make it work as a world model.

What in the hell do I need to do?

What would make you happy?
very to the point! couldn't agree more. our founding fathers founded our country on SMALL gov't. can't uncle sam work a budget? having said that, we should make wise enviro choices as we all already are doing(or at least most of us gassavers). it is just a theory.
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:11 PM   #123
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...I work with geo daily. Its a cluster. Sure its saves on fuel on the front end. But from what Ive seen its a $$$$ monster on the back side...
I haven't looked into geo yet, but have had a passing interest in it. Can you expand on this? Do some systems fail underground? Does the ground get heatsoaked?
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:17 PM   #124
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:27 PM   #125
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very to the point! couldn't agree more. our founding fathers founded our country on SMALL gov't. can't uncle sam work a budget? having said that, we should make wise enviro choices as we all already are doing(or at least most of us gassavers). it is just a theory.
Do you consider yourself a libertarian?
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BEER makes me happy. Hmmmm, how about a car that runs on beer?
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:08 PM   #127
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Do you consider yourself a libertarian?
consider myself a moderate conservative. support the constitution and vote according to related issues. but question the ability of a "small ticket" candidate to gain enough momentum to win a large election be it congress or the presidency. does one vote conscience and possibly "waste" that vote? tend to lean to the right because of that, but did vote dem on a recent sheriff election. will listen to all points of view.
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Interesting. I usually stick to my gun's and vote for whoever I agree with. I feel like, after all, if my candidate has such a small showing then my views must be pretty low on the list. But then again, I think our voting system needs a complete overall.

My only time at the polls I was forced to vote dem. for lack of "better" (for me), candidates. NH politics suck.
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does one vote conscience and possibly "waste" that vote?
No vote, is a wasted vote. Bigger things happen other than placing people into public office.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:19 PM   #130
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No vote, is a wasted vote. Bigger things happen other than placing people into public office.
i tend to agree except in the case of an uninformed vote. many vote their party w/out exception. how unfortunate. as far as my "wasted" vote, the concern is that the alternate party candidate would take votes from the GOP and/or DEM. Ross Perot is a good example. allowing an unnamed person to become the pres. Treb/Skewbe, i will not entertain discussion of that pres. just citing an example.
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