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Old 04-12-2007, 08:22 AM   #1
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US Automakers Challenge Emissions Rules (again).

Some interestingly absurd bits in this NY Times Article, such as...

"Among other points, the industry says more fuel efficient cars could be dangerous, because they will be cheaper to drive and lead people to drive more and potentially have more accidents.

?Everybody?s getting a good laugh out of the safety claim,? said David Bookbinder, a lawyer for the Sierra Club, which is a party to the case. ?Detroit is saying it?s a bad idea for everybody to drive more.?
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Priceless.
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:24 AM   #3
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Automakers argued in a court filing in January that “defendants make unsubstantiated predictions that global climate change is having a number of alarming adverse effects.”
Yeah...kinda like the unsubstantiated predictions that doing the right thing will have adverse effects on otherwise profitable automakers? I wish the big 3 would just go ahead and die already.
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"Among other points, the industry says more fuel efficient cars could be dangerous, because they will be cheaper to drive and lead people to drive more and potentially have more accidents."

That is rich lol
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"Among other points, the industry says more fuel efficient cars could be dangerous, because they will be cheaper to drive and lead people to drive more and potentially have more accidents.
If it wasn't so long - I'd make that a T-shirt :P

People drive more? Really now, how much of an impact has high fuel prices had on driving habits? This forum isn't a representative sample - but everyone on this forum probably sees the same thing I do - lots of people filling up, lots of people on the road. Perhaps one bike every 30-50 miles (if that) :/
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"In the real world, Detroit's vehicles already consume less fuel than imports," said Bob Klutz, "since the amount of time they spend in the shop more than makes up for the tow needed to get them there."
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The automakers are characteristically caught with their pants down. Nothing new, really. Yet at the same time, they still won't change their ways even as they embarass themselves further. Big government is on their side, ready to bail out GM's $300 billion in debt if it comes to it. Next thing, they'll be whining for import restrictions like they did in the 1970s and 1980s!
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The automakers are characteristically caught with their pants down. Nothing new, really. Yet at the same time, they still won't change their ways even as they embarass themselves further. Big government is on their side, ready to bail out GM's $300 billion in debt if it comes to it. Next thing, they'll be whining for import restrictions like they did in the 1970s and 1980s!
It always amazes how no matter how blatantly obvious it is that big business has our electorate by the short-hairs, nothing changes and yet it still makes the news. What looks like incompetent management unwilling to make the necessary changes to their products to save their own companies, is just a band of highly-paid scheissters, instead, using tried-and-true techniques for manipulating the government and consumers into making all the changes.

The definition of Insanity is continually doing the same things while expecting changed results. Maybe it's crazy for us to expect it to be different if nothing else changes.
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