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Old 09-28-2007, 07:30 AM   #21
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If you have a family friend that can weld nicely, then go for it. I can't see the subframe in the pictures, maybe you can get some shots from under the rear of the car?
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will try to get pictures up tomorrow.

should i jack up the back of the car and take a shot from underneath?

the back of the car is fine, just that side between the wheels, but it looks to me like it's eroding the frame.

you can see in the 2nd picture the place where the jack is meant to go. that huge hole came from trying to jack the car up and it just completely fell through on itself.

so if that area is supposed to be strong enough to support the weight of the car, it's not!
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dont ride with passengers in the back and your car is now safer hahaha you just got another crumple zone for a rear collision!
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Jack up the back of the car from the tow point in the middle and snap some pictures and close ups of where the lower control arms attach to the frame.

The real backbone of the Civic unibody is from the rear subframe up to the front lower crossmember. As long as that is all together, then you're fine.
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new pics

Hi TomO.

I've taken some pics. I hope they're helpful in your judgement.

I fear the car is more or less a goner...






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Hi TomO.

I've taken some pics. I hope they're helpful in your judgement.

I fear the car is more or less a goner...

The rear subframe looks to be intact with no signs of rusting....so you can drive the car into the ground at this point.

As far as making it look better to pass inspection...first use a rust converter to slow down the rust, then I'd use a can of expanding foam from Home Depot or the like and fill in the hole, shape the foam once it's cured and then body filler or fiberglass over it and paint it to match.
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thanks man. good idea.

what is a rust converter?

thanks again.
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thanks man. good idea.

what is a rust converter?

thanks again.
It's like a primer used for rusty metal that slows down the rusting process. You can buy it at most parts stores near the primer and car paint/prep products.

I agree on driving it into the ground.

Just bondo it up. Undercoat/seal that area of the car so hopefully your Bondo work stays pretty well together for a while. And drive drive drive.
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