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Old 08-16-2010, 02:29 PM   #1
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Tire machines

As I said in another post, I've recently left working at a tire shop.

It sure was nice to be able to mount & balance my own tires whenever I wanted (despite company policy), so now I'm looking to buy a tire machine. (Anyone in the Mass area could use it, too)

The machine I used was a Coats 5040 (or some variant thereof), and I liked it a lot. I also used a Coats balancer.

Anyone ever purchased a used tire machine? Any tips on the best way to go about it?

I prefer pneumatic over electric, although obviously a balancer will require 230V.

Thanks,

-Bob C.

p.s. I'm not looking to get one of those manual gadgets, where you hammer it and all that. Something powered.
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Old 08-16-2010, 03:22 PM   #2
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Re: Tire machines

You're about to become my new best friend.

Just kidding...I won't bother you with gratuitous tire mounting. At one point I considered doing some FE testing with different size tires but decided against it due to the cost of tire mounting.
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:59 PM   #3
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Re: Tire machines

In for updates as I'd love to do this myself as well.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:56 AM   #4
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At one point I considered doing some FE testing with different size tires but decided against it due to the cost of tire mounting.
Well that's part of the issue for me - I'm a tinkerer, and without the ability to change my own tires I feel somewhat impotent.

Most shops don't like to install tires from Tire Rack (or wherever), mostly because they don't make any money doing it. The shop where I used to work was a "preferred installer" but we would always take the opportunity to check the car to see what else it needs (brakes etc.) and do an upsell.

And I like the option to mount my own snowtires without paying $80 to put them on, then $80 to change back to non-snow tires in the springtime.

And if all of my friends & relatives bought tires on their own (BJs, tire rack, tiremonkey, whatever) instead of through retail, I could save a lot of money for a lot of people.

Anyhow, I've been watching craigslist and ebay and whatnot, but the machines on there tend to either be relics or expensive. But maybe those are my only options....

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Old 08-18-2010, 06:17 AM   #5
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Re: Tire machines

I found a store near me that sells imported (i.e. Chinese) tire machines. I hate to admit it, but I'm seriously considering looking at them.

http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/At...11-attc221.htm

Alternately, I'm just keeping an eye on Craigslist and ebay.

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Old 08-19-2010, 10:28 PM   #6
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There are DIYs out there for people who want to install their own tires at home .. it's not for the faint of heart, though. And your machine that you posted ... at 1900$ ... you would want to be doing a fair bit of tire mounting to justify that .... unless you want to start a little home business?
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You can mount your own tires if they've got a tall sidewall, however you won't be able to balance them unless you can limp your car over to the tire mounting place..
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And your machine that you posted ... at 1900$ ... you would want to be doing a fair bit of tire mounting to justify that .... unless you want to start a little home business?
Actually we plan on doing a fair amount of tires. I would probably do 4 or 8 per week (i.e. 1 or 2 cars), more during snow tire changeover season.

Between my 4 cars, my brothers 4 cars, my wife, parents, all of my friends, coworkers, churchmembers, and neighbors in my condo, I know a lot of people that are constantly paying too much for tire service. And my brother knows a lot of people too! We could easily keep the machines busy.

It won't take much to recover the investment - if you figure $600 for a set of tires (installed) at a tire store, and compare that to DIY + tire rack, the savings is probably easily $200 per set of 4 tires compared to straight retail. Not to mention snow tire changeovers. And when we're doing tires for friends & colleagues, etc., I'm sure they wouldn't mind chipping in $25 per car for the work.

Not to mention then we don't have to go through the arduous process of dealing with a tire store who will tell you that you need your strut fluid changed, waiting in a noisy waiting room with screaming kids, etc.

And the most important reason - if you want something done *right*, do it yourself! (I'm very anal about my tire balancing!)

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On a wild chance - a shot in the dark, really - here's some machines available locally. You'd have to be up for a road trip though.

http://kingston.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-...AdIdZ226044432
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