What are the hypermile "sleepers" - Page 21 - Fuelly Forums
Go Back   Fuelly Forums > Fuel Talk > Hypermiling
Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-17-2015, 03:46 PM   #201
Registered Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 11
Country: United States
In a question to an earlier post that I did : I watched the listings that theholycow and trollbait listed which were great source for the info I wanted to know but I would like to know if a person can do the pulse and coast with the Prius and get the gains I can with a S10? Does the Prius or Volt totally shut off coasting down a hill as I can do? I know that they are supposed to be set up to use that idea directly already, but if they can only do what the EPA rates them then they do not have the potential to double as my S10 can. So are they really that efficient? Is it even worth the time to play with a Prius?

I havent seen the great gas savers creations like the old streamlined Metro that was on the web site. What happened to them? Does anybody do that kind of mods anymore? Is there a way to get info about that kind of thing?

gassless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2015, 05:27 AM   #202
Registered Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,280
Country: United States
Location: north east PA
For hybrids it is generally referred to as a pulse and glide. I'm only really familiar with the 2nd gen Prius, but a hybrid can make hypermiling easy. It comes with nanny systems that limit the amount in order to protect the drive train and battery, though. With the Prius, the goal was to pulse, and then feather the accelerator. Foot off the pedal had the regen braking come on slightly to simulate transmission drag. By feathering it just a little, that would turn off without the engine or motor coming on. It is the same outcome as shifting to neutral without an idling ICE.

A hybrid could shut down coasting down hill and other times, but other factors come into play as to whether it does or not; such as engine temps and the battery's state of charge. Forced auto shut off is used by original Insight owners for the times the car's computer decides to keep the engine running. With every manufacturer's system being different, blanket statements are difficult to make.

Supposedly, Ford's current system is different enough that the techniques used on the first one aren't nearly as effective. Then Hyundai's system with pulse and glide automatically while cruising of the highway. The 3rd gen Prius has better rating EPA rating, and it is easier for the typical driver to attain it than the 2nd gen, but the 2nd gen has a higher MPG potential.

If you are gauging potential has a ratio of their rating, then a hybrid's potential isn't as great as an ICE car for most. They are already using some of the hypermiling tricks to get their rating. In raw consumption, few ICE cars will match a hybrid though. Double of the 2.2L S10's combine rating equals the 2nd gen Prius' straight rating. Getting that rating on the Prius doesn't require anything from the driver beyond avoiding short trips and not racing around everywhere.

Getting double of the S10 rating involves advanced hypermiling techniques. Using what that level, 4 men got over a 100mpg in a gen2 Prius over a tank. Some of them admitted to trying to waste fuel towards the end, because they were getting tired of driving. Wayne Gerdes, coiner of the hypermiling term and owner of Cleanmpg.com, has a record of over 180mpg in an original Insight for competition level hypermiling.

If you are looking at modding for economy, Ecomodders.com is a good start point.

trollbait is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2015, 07:37 AM   #203
Registered Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 116
Country: United States
Location: East Teggsas
I have noticed lately that Escort ZX2s are pretty consistent performers too. I'm guessing their light weight is their biggest asset?

Jcp385 is offline   Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Let's get technical: Tuning the ECU for mpg DrivenByNothing General Fuel Topics 41 10-17-2010 02:45 PM
Aero Exhaust samandw General Fuel Topics 8 01-29-2008 03:38 PM
electrical system on the blink? 1993CivicVX General Maintenance and Repair 7 09-26-2007 07:59 PM
If you're feeling down at work ... cfg83 General Discussion (Off-Topic) 0 01-31-2007 08:16 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:15 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.