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Old 05-18-2006, 10:06 AM   #31
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Sweet thanks - I'll do a search.

That's an L3 trans though - how much different is the S20? I mean, aside from the hydraulic/cable and mounting issues? I've seen Mista Bone do a hybrid trans using mix-n-match components...
Remind me what an S20 is. I've rebuilt numerous Honda manual transmissions, and all of them are VERY similar. I have yet to rebuild one that uses a cable shifter, but I really want to do this.
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Old 05-19-2006, 06:39 AM   #32
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Remind me what an S20 is. I've rebuilt numerous Honda manual transmissions, and all of them are VERY similar. I have yet to rebuild one that uses a cable shifter, but I really want to do this.
L3 - 88-91 cable transmission

Scroll down to see the ratios HERE

S20 - 92-95 hydro transmission (aluminum shift forks)

Mista Bones Page HERE

S40 - 96-00 hydro transmission (steel shift forks)

Note that the S20 is stamped P20/A000 (small diff bearing, CX/VX/LX/DX) or P20/B000 (EX/Si).

Here's another link on the ratios (I haven't checked accuracy though):
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If you've rebuilt several Honda trans, you probably already knewn this. The stamps are what some people go by, but they are also known by the "S" designation (any appliques have S20... on them for the P20 stamps). The hydro/cable that I was referring to was just the clutch, not shifter.
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Old 05-19-2006, 07:13 AM   #33
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L3 - 88-91 cable transmission

Scroll down to see the ratios HERE

S20 - 92-95 hydro transmission (aluminum shift forks)

Mista Bones Page HERE

S40 - 96-00 hydro transmission (steel shift forks)

Note that the S20 is stamped P20/A000 (small diff bearing, CX/VX/LX/DX) or P20/B000 (EX/Si).

Here's another link on the ratios (I haven't checked accuracy though):
HERE

If you've rebuilt several Honda trans, you probably already knewn this. The stamps are what some people go by, but they are also known by the "S" designation (any appliques have S20... on them for the P20 stamps). The hydro/cable that I was referring to was just the clutch, not shifter.
Yeah, I've done an S20 rebuild before. What I was saying is that I haven't rebuilt any H/F series or any K series transmissions yet. My bigest gripe about D-series transmissions is that the shafts don't break down by hand...you'll need a press or puller setup to break them down if you're going that deep into the rebuild.
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Old 05-19-2006, 03:02 PM   #34
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On the bellypan note:

I've heard that there are some of the performance types that have tried this and ran into heat problems associated with the exhaust. Something about boiling gas in the tank?

I know some of you guys have done the bellypan - have you noticed any problems like the above?
No problems here.
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Old 05-19-2006, 04:07 PM   #35
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I wish I can pay a guy and he'll do my car highly optimized for FE.

I'm one of those suckers that will pay to achieve efficency. I do it all the time in life.
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Old 05-19-2006, 04:29 PM   #36
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I wish I can pay a guy and he'll do my car highly optimized for FE.

I'm one of those suckers that will pay to achieve efficency. I do it all the time in life.
Hey, I know a guy selling gas pills that you might want to talk to. they need money for their defense fund :P
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Old 05-19-2006, 05:33 PM   #37
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Hey, I know a guy selling gas pills that you might want to talk to. they need money for their defense fund :P
Didn't you have this idea of phill's as a type of dealership where you got FE cars or supped up other cars to make 40+ mpg?
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Old 05-19-2006, 06:20 PM   #38
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Didn't you have this idea of phill's as a type of dealership where you got FE cars or supped up other cars to make 40+ mpg?
I can share with all that care. phil is a hard study. he has grasped and worked on his skillz harder than anybody I know on the net or in person.

I expect him to be my mentor in short order!

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Old 05-19-2006, 06:23 PM   #39
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I'm glad someone is here to stand up for him, he's always being made fun of (I actually can't think of a single occasion, but mehbe I'll start).
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Didn't you have this idea of phill's as a type of dealership where you got FE cars or supped up other cars to make 40+ mpg?
Uhm, yes, I had that idea, but what does it have to do with me poking fun at the guy selling gas pills?
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