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Old 11-11-2011, 09:36 PM   #1
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Hello from Indonesia.

Hi everyone.

I just registered on this forum to see what ideas others have come up with and to share a couple that I've been experimenting with (HHO and HCS mainly).

HHO I'm sure you all know about as the technology has been around for a long time.
HCS (Hydrocarbon Crack System) is less well known and I don't see any reference to it in the forum pages here.
If there is a thread about it; I hope that someone will tell me about it as I'd like to contribute to it.

Anyway; good to be here and I hope I learn something during my stay.

All the best.

Dan.
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Old 11-12-2011, 07:46 AM   #2
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Re: Hello from Indonesia.

The reason you don't see much about HHO and HCS is that the people that mostly post about it are those that end up trying to sell devices with unfounded claims to the members, and their accounts end up deleted. The purpose of this forum is to share information, not sell it.
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Old 11-12-2011, 12:36 PM   #3
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The reason you don't see much about HHO and HCS is that the people that mostly post about it are those that end up trying to sell devices with unfounded claims to the members, and their accounts end up deleted. The purpose of this forum is to share information, not sell it.
Hi Jay2TheRescue.

Then I sincerely hope that my account will not be deleted as my interest in this is purely altruistic.

The motor industry and the oil industry are (and always have been) a single cosy unit.
Neither wishes the world to be awash with fuel-efficient vehicles as it would represent a huge cut in profits for the oil companies.

Any 'super-carburetor' or other enhancement to the internal combustion engine is immediately pounced upon, bought-up and sunk or otherwise suppressed in favour of the horribly inefficient gas-guzzlers that we are saddled with now.

HHO and HCS are not the answer to this problem but they are good add-ons that serve to get significant mileage increases (and pollution reduction) from the crummy transport systems that we're continually forced to endure.

HHO takes power from the engine via the alternator that's needed to create the electrolysis that produces the Hydrogen so there's a limit to the amount that can be produced by any vehicle.
The gains come from the enhanced burn dynamics of Hydrogen in the system.

HCS uses exhaust-heat (otherwise unused) and powers the flow of vapours through the system either by engine vacuum or mild, variable pressure systems like the exhaust or the PCV.
As no drain is placed on the engine; the production of Hydrogen is technically unlimited which is a significant advantage over HHO.

Another advantage is that HCS can be put together quickly and easily from freely available parts requiring no technical knowledge or experience whatsoever.
It is a cheap, afternoon's work that gains mileage increases in excess of 40% and I therefore consider it worth sharing with others who are similarly enthusiastic about getting their vehicles to works a bit better.
Let's face it; they could hardly work worse.

Dan.
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:22 PM   #4
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Re: Hello from Indonesia.

Have you actually had any luck with the HHO. I only get them to do anything on older Dodge Cummings Deisels... much more power, little MPG gain
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welcome aboard by the way
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:04 PM   #6
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Have you actually had any luck with the HHO. I only get them to do anything on older Dodge Cummings Deisels... much more power, little MPG gain

welcome aboard by the way
Thanks, Kendaddy.

I bought an HHO unit from a friend who was making them here in Bali for a reasonable price and installed it before I heard about HCS.

The engine appeared to run more smoothly with the addition of Hydroxy and coasted by itself almost without needing to press the gas pedal.
I never bothered to calculate mileage increases but I'm not surprised to hear that they're minimal.

HCS doesn't produce oxygen; only Hydrogen and Carbon so the two systems are different in more ways than one.
The mileage increases reported on the Indonesian forums are very impressive (although they need to be verified in practice).
I tend to believe the figures though as they're from users who aren't selling anything (so have no motivation to exaggerate results).

The one that comes to mind is when fitted to a small Honda step-through that normally does 60 Kpl but managed to get 110 Kpl when running HCS.
Nobody seems to get less than a 40% mileage increase when feeding it into a venturi vacuum.

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Old 11-13-2011, 09:00 PM   #7
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Re: Hello from Indonesia.

Wish I knew how to get a 40 percent add on to my car!!! That would put me around 70 miles per gallon!!!!
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Wish I knew how to get a 40 percent add on to my car!!! That would put me around 70 miles per gallon!!!!
Hi Arky.

Then check out my thread about the Hydrocarbon Cracking System.

It's very simple with no secret or specialist parts; can be made from easily sourced materials by anyone in their garage.
A 40% mileage gain is often achieved by all accounts.

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