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Old 05-20-2007, 09:12 AM   #11
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In a strictly literal sense, 'we' (well at least most of us) don't pass less gas in this context, our vehicles do.

Perhaps 'Passing the Pump' would be less ambiguous though.
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Old 05-20-2007, 02:06 PM   #12
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We pass more gas? LOL, my grandpa has that one on his wheel chair, and it doesn't have anything to do with gasoline..... to much prune juice, maybe ? = methane gas?
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Old 05-20-2007, 02:18 PM   #13
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Definitely some hot air here ...
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Old 05-20-2007, 06:26 PM   #14
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Could I conclude from the add below that mileage is equal/superior to the average TDI?
No. This is a PD (pumpe-duse, or pump-injector) engine which is not (yet) average. The majority of the TDI in the states are still the VE or rotary distributor pump type used since the Rabbit diesel of the early 80's (although not TDI until 1996). The PD has some advantages, namely that it avoided some patent and licensing issues, but now even VW are going to the common rail type of injection system on the 2008 models. The PD is not known in TDI circles as being economical with fuel. A VE pump TDI with chip tuning will have equal power and still superior fuel mileage. The result is that the PD won't be 'average' to the US TDI before the number of CR systems overtake the attrition of the VE pumps.
BTW, The PD system is extremely sensitive to fuel viscosity. B100 biodiesel use in these is still being debated as to whether or not the thicker fuel will accelerate wear on the nearly intolerably high fuel system pressures.
The debate on the biodiesel and the VE pumps is settled: No problems.
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:04 PM   #15
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No. This is a PD (pumpe-duse, or pump-injector) engine which is not (yet) average. The majority of the TDI in the states are still the VE or rotary distributor pump type used since the Rabbit diesel of the early 80's (although not TDI until 1996). The PD has some advantages, namely that it avoided some patent and licensing issues, but now even VW are going to the common rail type of injection system on the 2008 models. The PD is not known in TDI circles as being economical with fuel. A VE pump TDI with chip tuning will have equal power and still superior fuel mileage. The result is that the PD won't be 'average' to the US TDI before the number of CR systems overtake the attrition of the VE pumps.
BTW, The PD system is extremely sensitive to fuel viscosity. B100 biodiesel use in these is still being debated as to whether or not the thicker fuel will accelerate wear on the nearly intolerably high fuel system pressures.
The debate on the biodiesel and the VE pumps is settled: No problems.
So your saying that I the sticker could say "TDIish mileage"

No I don't feel confrontational stickers are helpful. I plan to have gassavers on the car also
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Old 05-21-2007, 04:02 AM   #16
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I was thinking of a simple homemade bumper sticker:

52 MPG, Not A Hybrid

Someday maybe I can say 60 MPG, Not a hybrid.
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lovemysan -

You could go for the "I want to help you" version :

I Get 50 MPG!
Ask Me How!

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Yeppers! I like this one too! About to put the skirts on my Saturn too! (Well, lawn edging anyways)
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I think keeping it simple like in my case:

GasSavers.org . . . up to 50MPG . . . GasSavers.org
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Why not (My brain is the Hybrid)
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Old 05-28-2007, 06:07 AM   #20
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TDI killer would more be interpreted as you can beat one on the dragstrip, a dubious honor at best. If you want something along those lines,

1. maximum mileage
2. twice your range, half your gas
3. saving the planet one drop of gas at a time

Or, just a simple www.gassavers.org

IF you must put stickers on.
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