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Old 10-22-2008, 07:04 PM   #31
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Small point on the complete combustion - if it did completely burn you wouldn't end up with carbon deposits in the combustion chamber.

Your points on the more rapid combustion really makes a lot of sense and the acetone would also help towards that end by making the fuel droplets smaller so they burn easier and presumably quicker. I have variable intake timing which helps reduce pumping losses and up to 38 degrees of timing advance at light throttle and highway speeds and it should be interesting to see how HHO affects the timing assuming that a knock sensor will override the ECU's dendancy to time the wrong way.
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:06 PM   #32
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Gas log for Aquatron:

This is pre-install of hydrogen.
240.5 miles driven
17.3 gallons used
13.9 miles per gallon
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:36 PM   #33
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aquatron,

please start a proper gas log (along with a garage) without that, details can get skewed and numberes corrupted.

for example, those numbers look terrible 13.9 MPG unless you are running a large SUV or even a dodge truck with the cast iron V10 then those numbers look awesome. modifications?

I could assume that your vehicle is big because of your mileage and the size of the tank (and thank you for running an entire tank and not 2 gallons or so).

several of us are curious how this will turn out but for the sake of consistency and repeatability, a gas log will keep up with all of that. it has been a while since I set mine up but if memory serves me correctly, it isn't that hard to do.
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Old 11-10-2008, 03:02 PM   #34
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Flow chart of energy losses for a HUUMMV.

Flow chart of hybrid electric vehicle efficiency.

Source is University of Michigan and EPA.

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Old 11-12-2008, 02:38 PM   #35
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for example, those numbers look terrible 13.9 MPG unless you are running a large SUV or even a dodge truck with the cast iron V10 then those numbers look awesome. modifications?

Ok,
I started a garage and gas log.

The main reason for poor gas mileage is terrain and mud/snow tires.
There are very few flat roads of any length here unless I want to travel 100 miles to interstate and even then they are not flat.
Gas is only $1.79 here in SW MO.
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is that a v6 or a v8?

I used to have a dakota myself. mine was a 2004 and the v8. I know that the older dodge motors were not known for their mileage. the dreaded 318 that was rated at 13 or so miles to the gallon.

dodge trucks are good trucks. I would have another. mine (before I got rid of it) would do 0-60 in under 6 seconds. not too shabby for a pickup.

thanks for creating the gas log. most that do the HHO thing feel like we are mocking them when we ask for a gas log. I see it as I wouldn't ask anything that I am not doing myself.

you might want to consider the increasing tire pressure at least. check the side wall max on the tires and increase it a little to see if it makes a difference. it won't cost much. I know sheetz (a gas station) gives free air still (one of the few that still do).
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This truck is a v6, 3.9 liter. My first gaslog may be tainted by the fact that I had to haul a load of fire wood for 30 miles. I decided that I would use real world mileage because that is how the truck is going to be driven even when I do add hydrogen. I am sure that I will haul more wood after the install.
Probably without hauling the wood I may have been closer to the actual stated mileage for this truck.
I will try the air pressure adjustment too. Thanks.
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