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Old 04-09-2008, 07:00 PM   #21
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Imagine how it would be if your parents thought like that!

They stopped at two, just like the sensible math says
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:58 PM   #22
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Canada, which supplies about 10% of US oil and gas is at about $4.30 for regular at most Canadian pumps. Even if gasoline gets to $4.00 the US will still be running cheaper than most countries.

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Listen out for signs that we're really in trouble...

Like when the paparazzi catch Paris Hilton stumbling out of the washroom in this weeks hot nightclub reeking of the gasoline she's been huffing... and it's replaced cocaine as the ego drug of the conspicuous consumption classes... won't be long now...
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Old 04-10-2008, 04:51 PM   #24
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Scroll to the bottom of this page to see what some other countries are paying in US$'s/USgalons today;

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/gas1.html

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Scroll to the bottom of this page to see what some other countries are paying in US$'s/USgalons today;

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/gas1.html

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Comparing US gas prices to many other country's gas prices is grossly unfair to the US, given the amount of public transportation in smaller countries or those with big cities compared to US which is mostly spread out and lacks P.T.
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Gasoline in other countries usually have a high precentage of tax on it which paves the roads etc whereas in this country paves the pockets of the oil companies . . . that said.

I watched (finally) "Who Killed the Electric Car" DVD as my first Netflix choice having joined this week on a gift certificate I got from Christmas. Wow talk about a lot of dumb people out there driving cars (sorry you folks in CA) and a lot of oil company pressure to squash the electric car production. THey started out with using defective Lead batteries from AC Delco (50 mile range) then switched to NiMh (120mile range) but had they used LiIon which was very pricy back then (yeah 2003) the car would have had 300 mile range. Seems the Car companies spend an awful lot on advertizing every year . . . more than it took to develop the EV1. As far as the lack of demand the sales people found 4000 people that wanted one and then GM sits them down and talked most of them (only 50 got them) out of getting one by bad mouthing the product with all its limitations. The guy that serviced them said all he did was rotate tires and add washer fluid - his hands stayed clean.
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Comparing US gas prices to many other country's gas prices is grossly unfair to the US, given the amount of public transportation in smaller countries or those with big cities compared to US which is mostly spread out and lacks P.T.
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Sorry, remembering Jimmy Hoffa I didn't in any way mean to post something that seems unfair to the US use of inexpensive fuel to subsidize the teamsters and autoworkers unions nor the additional US consumers who benefit therefrom.

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Dairy should be removed from the food pyramid
Consider how dairy products have been used historically. Although they seem to currently be viewed simply as a calcium supplement, historically, they were used as a protein source like meat. In light of this fact, and in light of the fact that dairy products contain decent amounts of HIGHLY bioavailable and nutritionally complete protein, I tend to look at dairy products as more a part of the 'meat/poultry/fish/beans/nuts' group than a food group of its own. Because of this, and because of the fact that people can live just fine without dairy, I look at consumption of dairy products as optional (rather than mandatory).
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Consider how dairy products have been used historically. Although they seem to currently be viewed simply as a calcium supplement, historically, they were used as a protein source like meat. In light of this fact, and in light of the fact that dairy products contain decent amounts of HIGHLY bioavailable and nutritionally complete protein, I tend to look at dairy products as more a part of the 'meat/poultry/fish/beans/nuts' group than a food group of its own. Because of this, and because of the fact that people can live just fine without dairy, I look at consumption of dairy products as optional (rather than mandatory).
Dairy has only been a part of the human diet as long as we have domesticated animals. Hasn't been that long, so our bodies haven't had much time to adapt to the addition of dairy. We lived for thousands of years without it. It's not NEEDED.
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We lived for thousands of years without it. It's not NEEDED.
Similarly for government welfare programs too.
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