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Old 07-28-2006, 08:43 PM   #201
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:44 PM   #202
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Been attacked by any pit bulls lately?
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Old 07-29-2006, 12:26 AM   #203
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split the water put the oxygen in the cabin creating a clean air environment
and burn the hydrogen

i have heard electrolysis can be created just by high power electromagnets
i have read mixed reports on the violent AC (alternating current) water thrashing electrolysis
but it works...possibly better than dc....
hinted on...i believe there are studies proving optimal temp. ranges for electrolysis
high current/low voltage is more efficient on electrolysis than low current/high voltage

i own a st. louis cardinals t-shirt

inconel is a highly corrosion resistant conductive metal
its rated up there with platinum on corrosion resistance
but it is much cheaper than platinum electrodes (coatings...etc)
i have a few square feet of some inconel chainmail
all the rough edges should curtail a nice bubble
bubbles form the most on rough/sharp edges of metal
i will hang the mail like a circular curtain in a dual-chamber bucket
this will keep the oxygen and hyrdogen separate
(like the original science experiment in high school)
also considering electromagnet windings around the bucket itself
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Been attacked by any pit bulls lately?
Not yet. Haven't shot any yet either. I have some pit bull medicine.
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Old 07-29-2006, 11:02 AM   #205
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Haha. I love KC. For 2.5 weeks of vacation all the news talked about was damn pit bulls.
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Old 07-30-2006, 10:38 PM   #206
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http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/1999/plasmatron.html

If you haven't seen it before check out the plasmatron. It has been tested and it's main benefit is reduced emissions. From this article "If widespread use of plasmatron hydrogen-enhanced gasoline engines could eventually increase the average efficiency of cars and other light-duty vehicles by 20 percent, the amount of gasoline that could be saved would be around 25 billion gallons a year,"

They are getting their hydrogen from the car's gas instead of water. Water has a pretty strong bond and takes a lot more energy to break up than gas does so this seems to make more sense. From the little bit of looking around at this I have done it seems like the computer will have to be specially tuned to take the hydrogen into account in order to see any benefit at all. From what all I have been reading though it seems like the improvements in mileage are not great initially but they think with a lot of testing they can get it up to 20%. I have no idea what sort of extra sensors and programming will have to be done to the computer but I'm sure it won't be that simple.

Either way the good thing about that article is someone is doing some real serious testing and development with hydrogen injection and maybe soon we can get some definate answers.
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Old 07-30-2006, 10:41 PM   #207
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I'll read it after I get over being rejected from MIT!

Nice find though!
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http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/1999/plasmatron.html

If you haven't seen it before check out the plasmatron. It has been tested and it's main benefit is reduced emissions. From this article "If widespread use of plasmatron hydrogen-enhanced gasoline engines could eventually increase the average efficiency of cars and other light-duty vehicles by 20 percent, the amount of gasoline that could be saved would be around 25 billion gallons a year,"

They are getting their hydrogen from the car's gas instead of water. Water has a pretty strong bond and takes a lot more energy to break up than gas does so this seems to make more sense. From the little bit of looking around at this I have done it seems like the computer will have to be specially tuned to take the hydrogen into account in order to see any benefit at all. From what all I have been reading though it seems like the improvements in mileage are not great initially but they think with a lot of testing they can get it up to 20%. I have no idea what sort of extra sensors and programming will have to be done to the computer but I'm sure it won't be that simple.

Either way the good thing about that article is someone is doing some real serious testing and development with hydrogen injection and maybe soon we can get some definate answers.
I built one and tested it last year. My exhaust temps were only 500F. With the standed fuel system "on" exhaust temps are 750F too 800F. I still have 40 hours work left on it till its completely done......... There process is not necessarily making hydrogen. But I could be wrong?
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Hydrogen site.http://www.burnh2o.com/results.html
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