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Old 10-01-2005, 11:24 PM   #31
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Didn't make it to the metal

Didn't make it to the metal store today. They are closed Saturdays. I think I'll just order some stuff on McMaster. The place is about 30 minutes away and I'm lazy. I'll probably pay the same for shipping and handling as I would for gas going there and back.

I did some experiments tonight. I got some decent results, but I couldn't continue much longer after my wires began to melt. The last trial drew about 17 amps, so I'll need to upgrade wires. I don't have time to post the results tonight, but I'll post a pic of my setup real quick. I'll post more pictures, results, and details when I get the time. Hopefully by tomorrow night.

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Old 10-30-2005, 09:20 PM   #32
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Check it out, it seems to be interesting:

<a href=http://h2gen.info/ target=_blank>Homemade Hydrogen Generator</a>
<a href=http://www.savefuel.ca/ target=_blank>Buy one</a>

So, I know there is a thing about humifying, but I think it is worth talking about the way that the first is made and how much would that really cost compared to the second, if you get my drift. I dunno, it's a confusing thing to me, I dunno, I'd love to make one though.
Sorry for the bump. But can I run the system exactly as it is in the video without damaging my motor?

In the video it looks like they are producing only small amounts of hydrogen. Flatland how is your progress going?
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Old 10-30-2005, 09:27 PM   #33
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I think he's rather busy,

I think he's rather busy, there are some on ebay you can get that I'm pretty sure work well, lemme try and find what I'm thinking of.
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Old 10-30-2005, 09:31 PM   #34
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Build your own kit Built The

<a href=http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Generator-Kit-Save-Gas-Save-Fuel_W0QQitemZ5824975072QQcategoryZ294QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem target=_blank>Build your own kit</a>
<a href=http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Generator-Save-Fuel-Gas-experiment_W0QQitemZ5824706960QQcategoryZ294QQssPa geNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem target=_blank>Built</a>
<a href=http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Generator-Save-Fuel-Gas_W0QQitemZ5824973871QQcategoryZ294QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem target=_blank>The most hardcore one</a>
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Old 10-30-2005, 11:23 PM   #35
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Re: Build your own kitBuiltThe

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<a href=http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Generator-Kit-Save-Gas-Save-Fuel_W0QQitemZ5824975072QQcategoryZ294QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem target=_blank>Build your own kit</a>
<a href=http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Generator-Save-Fuel-Gas-experiment_W0QQitemZ5824706960QQcategoryZ294QQssPa geNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem target=_blank>Built</a>
<a href=http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Generator-Save-Fuel-Gas_W0QQitemZ5824973871QQcategoryZ294QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem target=_blank>The most hardcore one</a>
I wouldn't buy some of them. After reading the stories you got to be careful what kind of container you use and how much of the ingredients you use. Having a weak container could melt because the temp rises 150F+. Some of those containers are too big and if you turn off your car and leave the reaction could still be going.

I think If I do this it would be best for me to build myself a system and a small one at that.

Also I read that hydrogen corrodes copper really bad and I have copper spark plugs. Am I going to be ok?

So far I see 2 methods of making hydrogen. One is without elecritity which is a little messy and the other is with electricity but less messy. Can we use a small solar panel to power these? Maybe have the solar panel on the dash that way we don't use any of the power from the car.
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Old 10-31-2005, 08:26 AM   #36
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Can we use a small solar panel to power these? Maybe have the solar panel on the dash that way we don't use any of the power from the car.
Solar panels will not produce enough electricity to do this Using the car's power seems to be the best way to do it.

Flatland2d was actually thinking of making kits and selling them either here or on ebay. it might be worth the wait to see what he comes up with.
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Can we use a small solar panel to power these? Maybe have the solar panel on the dash that way we don't use any of the power from the car.
Solar panels will not produce enough electricity to do this Using the car's power seems to be the best way to do it.

Flatland2d was actually thinking of making kits and selling them either here or on ebay. it might be worth the wait to see what he comes up with.
He hasn't replied in almost a month which gives me the idea he dropped the project. He seems to know what he is doing, especially with the metals. If he sells the kits that will run on electric power and make a little mess I'll buy it. I know how to make this system now, but I don't want to make my own.

Also is it better to introduce hydrogen after the air filter so more goes into the engine? Or is it better before the air filter because it still has some crap in it.

Hydrogen should be regulated to the amount of gas pedal you're pressing or the amount the TB( throttle body) is opening that way some of it doesn't go to waste and the car works longer on hydrogen+gasolene.

I also pay attention to safety because I used to have nitrous in my car so you have to be really careful with the motor.
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Why don't you want to build

Why don't you want to build a system yourself? I'm really interested in building my own, just haven't wandered across something totally comprehensive on the subject.
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Why don't you want to build a system yourself? I'm really interested in building my own, just haven't wandered across something totally comprehensive on the subject.
I personally want the electrical version of it because it simplifies things. But I don't know nothing of electricity and don't want to experiment.

I have tested this hydrogen thing and it works. I put some water and baking soda in a jar. I then added a slim fast can(crushed). It only worked after I heated it up. So if the system is in the engine bay it will keep working. Next time I need to use a hairdryer on the can to take the picture off that way the reaction will start faster and work better.
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Also adding a little bit

Also adding a little bit amount of hydrogen peroxide made it speed up under heat.

hydrogen peroxide is dirt cheap. It's like 69 cents for a cup size bottle.
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