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Old 02-15-2006, 12:13 PM   #11
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Re: This is stupid. The European

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This is stupid.
hey, i'm not trying to sell you one.

i just thought it was a good illustration of the effects of weight reduction and efficient aerodynamic design on fuel consumption between 2 cars with the same drive train.
And an excellent point it was.

If I ever have the time I'd like to take a small car and remove the unibody. I'd then build it back up and make a nice little aerodynamic car. Perhaps using an old RX7 frame or another older small car and making my own body out of fiberglass or carbon fiber would be perfect. It could be a really fun project to build one of these.
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Old 02-15-2006, 02:15 PM   #12
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About Diesel

I've been a pro-Diesel advocate for quite some time. The problem is, in 2007, fine particulates emitted by new Diesel engines must meet certain demands or fail pre-sales emissions. They're even targeting locomotives and ferry boats.

Unfortunately, fine particles severely effect people with asthma, emphysema, COPD, etc. Some brands (I think mostly German) are developing a soot collector, kinda like a CAT, which would meet regs.

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The jet is rated at 94mpg.

The jet is rated at 94mpg. That means 120mpg is possible on a good day.
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Re: The jet is rated at 94mpg.

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The jet is rated at 94mpg. That means 120mpg is possible on a good day.
Unless the EPA changes the rules or the vehicle meets the "fine particulates" regulations, it'll just be another cool car you can't get in the U.S. I think the carbon emissions would significantly improve, as would just about every other emission with that kind of economy (even NOx). But, when the '07's come out, expect all non-truck diesels to be pulled off of the market, unless a miraculous soot collector is designed.

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Old 02-16-2006, 08:06 AM   #15
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This is stupid. The European accord gets 92mpg with the diesel engine. Why would I want some car that looks like a space ship get the same mpgs???

All you have to do is place wheel skirts, aero mods, light weight wheels and get 100mpg on the Diesel euro accord.
The only time the accord achieved this was in that article we posted a while ago. The diesel accord you're talking about is rated around 50mpg.

I'd drive the VW 3L any day of the week.
I'd still take it at 50mpg. First it looks like a normal car. It has 4 doors and seats 5. Second that mpg will go up, if they can achieve 92mpg in the article I'm sure I can achieve 70mpg when I'm done with it. Now the closest car that we have to 70mpg is the insight. It has 2 doors and it's slow as hell. Not to mention it doesn't have any room for other people or space to put in the trunk.

Next is that diesel engine accord has torque, 140hp and 250ft tq. So it accelarates really good while getting excellent fuel economy.

So in my point Diesel Accord>*

I'd never get the VW. They are ridden with electrical problems and everybody knows this. Besides Honda has always been better than VW.
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Re: This is stupid. The European

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This is stupid.
hey, i'm not trying to sell you one.

i just thought it was a good illustration of the effects of weight reduction and efficient aerodynamic design on fuel consumption between 2 cars with the same drive train.
I know that you're not trying to sell me one but I'm just stating my opinion on the car.
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I'd never get the VW. They are ridden with electrical problems and everybody knows this. Besides Honda has always been better than VW.
In my opinion this is more bull**** and advertising than truth.
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