Thanks all...anyone know about these? These are made by Michelin (reading that the mold is from another Michelin Tire). It's not LRR but the price tradeoff is there. A tiny bit taller and wider at 195/65/15. Far cheaper and the review say good in rain or snow. About $65 each along with $100 rebate from Discount Tire Direct leaves some jingle in my pockets. Just wish they were LRR but not bad for the price.