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Old 07-28-2006, 01:51 AM   #21
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If such a device were ever made, you can bet your *** the oilies would be right in line to surpress it. They've already done it with previous advancements on a rather consistent basis.
While that is true, if anyone can make one of these devices in his backyard, it's a ticket to untold billions of dollars. If it were patentable, people would be producing them at home, setting up shop as producers of electricity.

Perpetual motion machines have been tried as much as alchemy and with as much effect. And there is good indication that neither has succeeded, gold is $630/ounce and for energy, there are sites like this very one. Both are such literal pots of gold that anyone worth their salt has attempted it.

But there is the next best thing, solar and wind power (also from the sun, indirectly), both from the virtually limitless font of energy many miles away. Configure your house correctly, build an appropriate car and you are effectively off the grid.
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But there is the next best thing, solar and wind power (also from the sun, indirectly), both from the virtually limitless font of energy many miles away. Configure your house correctly, build an appropriate car and you are effectively off the grid.
Wind electricity, solar electricity, battery electric cars, precisely what that industry has helped stall on repeated, documented occassions... Add in industrial hemp as well.
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This site has been great. Recently, however, there has been much discussion of conspiracies and thermodynamic impossibilities... perpetual motion machines. This dilutes the really good work that has been going on.

If people want to talk about such nonsense, they have the right, but can we move these threads to a separate "moonbat" thread?

Matt, can you intervene here?
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I think it's funny that the ONLY kind of invention that the US Patent Office still requires a working model of to file for a patent is any type of over unity system.
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:44 AM   #25
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This site has been great. Recently, however, there has been much discussion of conspiracies and thermodynamic impossibilities... perpetual motion machines. This dilutes the really good work that has been going on.

If people want to talk about such nonsense, they have the right, but can we move these threads to a separate "moonbat" thread?

Matt, can you intervene here?
I'm not particularly a fan of "conspiracy theories" but if someone searches it on google and comes here where everyone says BS than that's find with me. Deleting threads that seem ridiculous in the first place is just going to leave us more ignorant than before.
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i'm definately not trying to create or promote over-unity as anything less or more of the great ideas shared on this site...

oil was discovered in a back yard in pennsylvania
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you got to be dirty before you can get clean
otherwise there is no reference
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The magnetic field comes from the "current" or the "wire"? In a electromagnet.
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Over Unity Idea

Here's an Over Unity Idea: build a PhotoVoltaic (PV) cell plant. Make enough PVs to power the plant and hook 'em up. Voila! Now you are making more "free energy" PVs using "free" energy. Build some arrays and hook 'em up to the grid, selling the power. Now you have $$ to purchase the materials to make the PVs and the process is self-sustaining. "Something" from "nothing."

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Old 07-28-2006, 05:36 PM   #29
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Here's an Over Unity Idea: build a PhotoVoltaic (PV) cell plant. Make enough PVs to power the plant and hook 'em up. Voila! Now you are making more "free energy" PVs using "free" energy. Build some arrays and hook 'em up to the grid, selling the power. Now you have $$ to purchase the materials to make the PVs and the process is self-sustaining. "Something" from "nothing."

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Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention that the power source really is "energy from space."

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