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Old 02-14-2008, 08:02 AM   #1
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Has anyone seen the ad in the latest Popular Science about adding a $1000 fuel cell system to your car and it'll boost your mileage by like 3 or 4 times?

http://www.preignitioncc.com/default/index.htm

My engineering/physics sense tells me it's total bogus.

Just wanted to see if anyone thing the same or otherwise.

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Old 02-14-2008, 10:59 AM   #2
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a gasoline engine is only 23% or so efficent, so unless you are pushing your engine to 100% efficent, pulling fuel out of thin air (hydrogen is not a fuel, it's converted energy, like streaching a rubber band is converted energy), or making better use of the engine, like coasting to get closer to useing 100% of the power that it's producing at that 23% efficentcy.
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Those are the threads on GS referring to the PICC systems with the HAFC kits.

I just received and email from the supplier located in North Dakota Quoting me $1600 for the kit. Not worth it since the gains in mileage have been proven to not be more than 1-2% with the means that they employ before the installation of the PICC (magnets, hydrogen/water injection, and fuel atomization)
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I just received and email from the supplier located in North Dakota Quoting me $1600 for the kit. Not worth it since the gains in mileage have been proven to not be more than 1-2% with the means that they employ before the installation of the PICC (magnets, hydrogen/water injection, and fuel atomization)
Proven by who? I expected as much but someone asked me about this the other day and I would like to have some evidence against this product.
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Search on this board for the use of magnets on the fuel lines, then search for hydrogen/H2O injections. The gains are very small, and the $1000+ that company wants from you and then you have to have it installed by one of their certified techs (for an additional cost)...you would have to own the vehicle for over 100 years to break even for the cost of having those systems installed.

The only problem that I have against that company and that product is what they are charging for it. A person can go and get the proper magnets from the internet as well as the other parts to make the hydrogen/H2O injection for much less than what they charge. At least the gains would only take a year or two to wash out the cost of the parts then.

I'm just upset by companies making outlandish claims when there hasn't been any real testing of their systems by independents. If their product really did what they claimed, they wouldn't even bat an eyelash to give you a free trial.

and besides, the actual PICC system isn't even in production yet. It's been in testing and development for years now.
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