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Old 09-17-2007, 12:23 PM   #21
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Old 11-26-2007, 07:53 PM   #22
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The salt water stuff has made it into the November 2007 issue of Motor Trend :

Technologue: Oceans: Four - If we could just burn salt water, we'd never run out of fuel

... Kanzius's lab demonstration offered little to convince me otherwise. Sure, a test tube of pure water sat there in his radio-wave gizmo with nothing happening, then a quarter teaspoon of Morton's salt was added and, presto, the radio waves prompted it to catch fire. The gauge on the radio-wave generator read 200 watts, but there was no telling how much heat was coming off the flame or how much power was coming out of the wall, so I had no way of knowing whether this was an energy-losing parlor trick or a breakthrough.

Then I contacted Dr. Rustum Roy, an authority on the structure of liquid water at Penn State University, which houses one of the foremost microwave research labs. He hadn't met Kanzius, but his enthusiasm for the concept was palpable. No hard research has been conducted as yet -- it's only been a few months since the water first caught fire -- but Dr. Roy speculates that because the 13.56-MHz radio frequency is a harmonic of the natural frequency of sodium ions, the waves are causing these positive ions to vibrate intensely. Van der Waal's effects attract the oxygen end of water molecules to the positive sodium ions, and the vibration shakes the oxygen molecules hard enough to break the hydrogen bonds, freeing the hydrogen gas, which then ignites and burns. If true, the radio waves may be giving us electrolysis at a deep energy discount, allowing the flame to produce a net energy gain without breaking any thermodynamic laws.

The pure salt-water flame is fairly weak, but Kanzius has researched doping the salt water with various undisclosed substances that generate a much more intense flame. I'll postulate that it's some sort of alcohol, which mixes well with water, but it could be something else entirely. Years of research lie ahead, but he suspects that his doped salt-water could pack sufficient punch to power an internal- combustion engine, with a ceramic "window" in the top of the cylinder through which radio waves would enter to ignite the mixture. ...


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