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Old 10-29-2006, 05:46 PM   #1
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Super high MPG cars we may never see

I figured we should start posting pictures and links to cars with high MPG design that not avalible in north america, were in limited production, or never were for sale at all. These cars may not be tested by the epa so take the figures with a grain of salt.



Loremo
20 hp, 2-cylinder turbodiesel = 157 mpg
50 hp, 3-cylinder turbodiesel = 88 mpg

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/02/27/l...-car-in-geneva
http://www.gizmag.com/go/5301/1/



Volkswagen “1-liter” car
0.3L diesel, 8.5 horsepower= 265 mpg on a trip from Wolfsburg to Hamburg

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/gw/vw1litre.htm



Jetcar 1.5/2.5
Fuel Economy: 149 mpg / 67 mpg urban-112 mpg extraurban
Top Speed: 68/100
0-60 mph: ---
Horsepower: 11/40
Drag Coefficient:---
Curb Weight: 859 lbs/ 1455 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults/ 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact


http://www.jetcar.de/english/index.htm


Toyota ES3 concept
Fuel Economy: 87 mpg
Top Speed: ---
0-62 mph: 10
Horsepower: 67
Drag Coefficient: 0.23
Curb Weight: 1543 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Compact

http://www.carpages.co.uk/toyota/toy...1_22_11_02.asp



3L Lupo
1.2L three-cylinder turbo-diesel, 61 horsepower = 78mpg

http://www.usatoday.com/money/consum...w/mauto497.htm





Mitsubishi i concept car
Fuel Economy: 62 mpg
Top Speed: 115mph
0-60 mph: 10.6 seconds
Horsepower: 67
Drag Coefficient: 0.24
Curb Weight: 1741 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/cor...nment/e/i.html



Suzuki Twin
Fuel Economy: 80 mpg
Top Speed: 78mph
0-60 mph: 32.1
Horsepower: 44 HP
Drag Coefficient: -
Curb Weight: 1234-1322 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact


http://www.globalautoindex.com/news.plt?no=293#
http://www.stevejarvinmotors.com.au/suzuki/concept/

You car see some Kei cars from japan on this link (700cc around 50mpg)
http://japanoid.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Kei_cars



I will try to find more. Feel free to add cars.
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If anyone can, help me fill in the blanks marked with a '-'. We should create a database on this ****. The mpg figures are in U.S. gallons.


Below, I have listed cars that are currently unavailable.

Ford Prodigy





Fuel Economy: 72 mpg
Top Speed: 80 mph (electronically limited)
0-60 mph: 12 seconds
Horsepower: 121
Drag Coefficient: .20
Curb Weight: 2,387 lbs
Seating Capacity: 5 adults
Classification: Midsize
Powertrain: 1.2L L4 turbodiesel coupled with an electric drive

GM Precept





Fuel Economy: 80 mpg
Top Speed: 85 mph (electronically limited)
0-60 mph: 11.5 seconds
Horsepower: 100
Drag Coefficient: .16
Curb Weight: 2,593 lbs
Seating Capacity: 5 adults
Classification: Midsize
Powertrain: 1.3L L3 turbodiesel coupled with an electric drive

Dodge Intrepid ESX3





Fuel Economy: 72 mpg
Top Speed: 90 mph (electronically limited)
0-60 mph: 11 seconds
Horsepower: ---
Drag Coefficient: .22
Curb Weight: 2,250 lbs
Seating Capacity: 5 adults
Classification: Midsize
Powertrain: 1.47L L4 turbodiesel coupled with an electric drive

Daihatsu UFE-III





Fuel Economy: 170 mpg
Top Speed: ---
0-60 mph: ---
Horsepower: ---
Drag Coefficient: .17
Curb Weight: 970 lbs
Seating Capacity: 3 adults
Classification: Compact
Powertrain: 660cc L3 turbodiesel coupled with an electric drive

GM Ultralite





Fuel Economy: 88 mpg
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 7.8 seconds
Horsepower: 111
Drag Coefficient: .19
Curb Weight: 1,400 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Compact
Powertrain: 1.5L L3 gasoline internal combustion engine

Toyota ES3





Fuel Economy: 87 mpg
Top Speed: ---
0-60 mph: 10 seconds
Horsepower: 67
Drag Coefficient: 0.23
Curb Weight: 1543 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Compact
Powertrain: 1.3L L3 turbocharged gasoline internal combustion engine coupled with an electric drive

Mitsubishi i





Fuel Economy: 62 mpg
Top Speed: 115 mph
0-60 mph: 10.6 seconds
Horsepower: 67
Drag Coefficient: 0.24
Curb Weight: 1741 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 660cc L3 turbocharged gasoline internal combustion engine

Mercedes Bionic





Fuel Economy: 55 mpg
Top Speed: 118 mph (electronically limited)
0-60 mph: 7.9 seconds
Horsepower: 140
Drag Coefficient: .19
Curb Weight: ---
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Compact
Powertrain: 2.0L L3 turbodiesel

Opel Eco Speedster





Fuel Economy: 94 mpg
Top Speed: 160 mph (electronically limited)
0-60 mph: 8.9 seconds
Horsepower: 112
Drag Coefficient: .20
Curb Weight: 1,455 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 1.3L L4 turbodiesel

Loremo LS/GT





Fuel Economy: 157 mpg / 88 mpg
Top Speed: 100 mph / 138 mph
0-60 mph: 19 seconds / 9 seconds
Horsepower: 20 / 52
Drag Coefficient: .20 / .20
Curb Weight: 992 lbs / 1,034 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults, 2 children / 2 adults, 2 children
Classification: Sub-Compact / Sub-Compact
Powertrain: L2 turbodiesel / L3 turbodiesel

VW 1-Litre:





Fuel Economy: 235 mpg
Top Speed: 78 mph
0-60 mph: ---
Horsepower: 8.5
Drag Coefficient: .16
Curb Weight: 640 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 300cc one-cylinder turbodiesel

VW EcoRacer





Fuel Economy: 69 mpg
Top Speed: 143 mph
0-60 mph: 6.3 seconds
Horsepower: 134
Drag Coefficient: ---
Curb Weight: 1,874 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 1.5L L4 turbodiesel

Jetcar 2.5





Fuel Economy: 90 mpg
Top Speed: 100 mph
0-60 mph: ---
Horsepower: 40
Drag Coefficient: ---
Curb Weight: 1,455 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 600cc L3 gasoline engine

Renault Twingo SmILE





Fuel Economy: 71 mpg
Top Speed: 93 mph
0-60 mph: 14 seconds
Horsepower: 55
Drag Coefficient: .25
Curb Weight: 1,432 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 358cc L2 supercharged gasoline engine

VW Wundercar II



Fuel Economy: 118 mpg
Top Speed: 112 mph
0-60 mph: 12 seconds
Horsepower: 61
Drag Coefficient: ---
Curb Weight: 1,535 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 1.2L L3 turbodiesel engine

Vapor Fuel Technologies Alé





Fuel Economy: 92 mpg
Top Speed: 140 mph (electronically limited)
0-60 mph: 5 seconds
Horsepower: 180
Drag Coefficient: ---
Curb Weight: 1,490 lbs
Seating Capacity: 1 adult
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 1.5L L4 turbocharged gasoline engine


The following below are available in Europe but not in the U.S.

VW Lupo 3L TDI





Fuel Economy: 79 mpg
Top Speed: 102 mph
0-60 mph: 14.5 seconds
Horsepower: 61
Drag Coefficient: .29
Curb Weight: 1,828 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 1.2L L3 turbodiesel

Audi A2 1.2 TDI ASG





Fuel Economy: 78 mpg
Top Speed: 105 mph
0-60 mph: 14.5 seconds
Horsepower: 61
Drag Coefficient: .25
Curb Weight: 1,818 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Compact
Powertrain: 1.2L L3 turbodiesel

Suzuki Twin





Fuel Economy: 80 mpg
Top Speed: 78 mph
0-60 mph: 32.1 seconds
Horsepower: 44
Drag Coefficient: ---
Curb Weight: 1,322 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 660cc L3 turbocharged gasoline engine coupled with an electric drive

Opel Astra ECO4





Fuel Economy: 54 mpg
Top Speed: 109 mph
0-60 mph: 13.5 seconds
Horsepower: 75
Drag Coefficient: .28
Curb Weight: 2,820 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Compact
Powertrain: 1.7L L4 turbodiesel engine
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Awesome! I really wanted this all in one area. Because we talk about certain car and then I forget about them.
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If anyone can find them, post all the specs I've posted on the veghicle you enter.

I may write a blog entry featuring these cars and explaining why they do so well in fuel economy. Perhaps even go into a little history of high mpg cars, like the 95 horsepower Opel GT diesel race car concept that returned 98 mpg and topped 124 mph in 1972.
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are these in US gallons or Imperial? Slight difference in the numbers depending.
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I posted them in U.S. gallons, converting figures I found through google and other search engines. The Eco Speedster, for instance, got 113 mpg imperial combined. That's 94 mpg U.S.
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It is some work convering.

kw to HP/ L per 100k to mpg/ imperial mpg to us mpg/ Kg to Lbs

but you already know.
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I will put mine in the same format as toecutter (the ones that he dosen't have).
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Is it just me, or is the GM Precept remind one of a Tatra 603 if they were still building them? Knowing GM, maybe we will see it one day.....
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The Mitsubishi i does 0-60 mph in 10.6 seconds and tops 115 mph. See the following link, but later searches varified it:

www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.php?file=car.php&carnum=1757

I've also seen on evworld and elsewhere that the drag coefficient of the ES3 was .23 according to Toyota.

Also, there is more than one incarnation of the Jetcar. Are you referring to the 1.5, or 2.5 version? Or others?

The Jetcar 2.5 weighs 1,366 pounds, tops 100 mph. 67 mpg US urban, 112 mpg US extraurban. I don't know how the EU calculates combined cycle, but it may work out to the 94 mpg you listed. 40 horsepower is correct, of course.

The Jetcar 1.5 is a smaller version, returning 149 mpg U.S. with an 11 horsepower diesel and having a 68 mph top speed. It has a weight of 859 lbs. See the following two references:

http://www.jetcar.de/english/techdat_jetcar_15_eng.html
http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?sect...le&storyid=573

The Suzuki Twin has a 78 mph top speed, 44 peak horsepower produced from both drives combined.


http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar...p_model=%20808
www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/nl/?car=109857
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