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Old 08-18-2013, 06:33 AM   #1
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Vehicles that still get good gas mileage while in unthinkably severe traffic jams?

My commute home is 65 miles and can take up to 3.5 hours with no accidents and great weather. Traffic jams are averaging about 50 miles of bumper to bumper these days.

Could you tell me what vehicles are best equipped for that sort of commute? I know that a hybrid would shine here and a motorcycle would as well.

I'd like to exclude those vehicles in this thread though.

I know that there are probably techniques to make the stop and go better, but I'd like to make this thread car specific.

Thank you
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92 Protege DX 5 speed - Poor Man's Hybrid 40.96 MPG (city)

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Old 08-18-2013, 09:02 AM   #2
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I would not recommend motorcycles for stop & go traffic. They're too easy to overheat, especially if you get an air cooled one. Hybrids are made specifically to perform well in bumper to bumper traffic. Otherwise, your best mileage would be in something small like a Geo Metro or Honda Civic VX.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:15 AM   #3
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I think a water cooled bike with an auxiliary fan won't overheat in any amount of traffic jam. Other than that, I'd recommend small and light ones, like a 125cc. Slow speeds and miserable acceleration of the queue won't need anything strong, and small ones are definitely more efficient at low speeds and idling. Low weight comes handy when you have to brake: you won't throw too much momentum away.

Bikes' trump card is that you can split lanes on multi-lane roads, so you can be much faster than a car that just sits there idling or not. If it's legal in your area, I mean.

OTOH, hybrids are really made for such situations, and they won't unnecessarily idle when waiting.
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Are we talking new or used cars?

New, the Fusion has an auto start/stop option. There is also a Kia and maybe a Hyundai available with it. Installing a second battery would get more out of it in that much traffic. I have seen reports for owners overseas of Kia's with it have to get the battery replaced sooner. With heavy use of any system it would be prudent to regularly charge the battery.

Mazda doesn't seem to be offering their auto start/stop system yet, but the new 6 has their i-ELOOP regen braking system as an option. It increases the city rating by 2mpg. It also has active grill shutters for 40mpg rating on the highway.
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:37 PM   #5
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Thanks all. I am talking about used cars.
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Thicker 2 row radiator, walmart hubcaps, Pepboys tires, 10w 30 Castrol HM, Jensen CD player, Roadmaster speakers, ebay hi-flow air filter, autolite 3924 plugs, stant superstat, NGK blue 8mm wires, LeBra car bra, no Exhaust Manifold heat shield, MX-3 Seats, bad A/C compressor
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:07 AM   #6
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I agree that Hybrids are really made for this kind of driving. I would look for a Hybrid of something with a start/stop function. Maybe a 1st Gen Insight or a 2nd Gen Prius.
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Old 08-20-2013, 08:41 AM   #7
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The gen2 Prius might actually do better than the gen3 in this situation in terms of percent over EPA. It is reported to have a higher mpg potential for hypermiler.

When it comes to non hybrids, the manual is usually the better choice for fuel economy. The question is if you really want to drive one every day in such traffic?
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I'd like to exclude those [hybrid and motorcycle] vehicles in this thread though.
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I'd concur the Civic VX would be a great choice, although shifting out of 1st and 2nd gears might get tedious. If it gets really slow, I sometimes will turn my car off and just push a little and if you are on a gradual decline that is barely moving you can also turn your car off until you get to the bottom of the slope.
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I have a few fuel saving tips when going through traffic jams.

-When the speed is picking up ahead: move closer behind the vehicle in front of you.
-When speed is different between lanes or traffic is slowing down ahead in your lane: keep a greater distance. Brake some early if you have to. The optimal is to arrive close up to the vehicle in front of you just as the speed starts to pick up in that lane, to avoid people changing lanes in front of you and keeping your minimum speed at a maximum.
-Never drive behind a large truck that blocks the view ahead.

Other than that: smallest engine and lightest car possible will increase FE in traffic jams. Preferably a diesel which has lower consumption when idling.
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