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Old 10-31-2007, 07:41 AM   #1
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Want a new car...can't decide what

I have been wanting a new car/truck for a long time now, but can't decide what to get. I am currently driving a 2002 ford focus zx3 and want something bigger. My better half has a ford escape, which I like, but the seats don't fit me well and after a long trip my legs get sore. I have looked at the new ford taurus X, which I really like, but I would be sacrificing some mpg's. I have looked at getting a pickup, but can't justifiy it since the focus has done 99% of what I needed it to. So I am really looking for a good balance between fuel economy and comfort. So if someone could give some insight as to good comfortable cars are out there, let me know. Here is how I define comfort in a car:
-upright seating where your legs are supported all the way to the knees (kind of like a good office chair.
-quiet; I hate rattles that develop 65k miles after you get the car, or road noise
-room; I would like a car that is a little bit wider than the focus, and storage space would be nice, since I like to go on long road trips / camping.

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Old 10-31-2007, 07:49 AM   #2
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Why moving to a new car if you like the old one so much? It's not even too old...

I hear good things about the new accord, but other than that I don't really follow new cars. The prius?

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Old 10-31-2007, 08:33 AM   #3
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I really want a new car because I am tired of this one. I know that sounds wastefull, and all too "american". I am more than willing to look at older vehicals, if you had something in mind. I thought about a prius; but new technology sometimes worries me, just don't know if a hybrid is for me or not, I know how a gas engine works and I can troubleshoot/work on them with some proficiency, but a hybrid is a whole new ballgame...sort of.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:47 AM   #4
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I understand completely. I'm still not much help for older newer cars, but I know many people who own accords and all of them are very happy with the utility and comfort. I have a friend who hauls hundreds of pounds of garden junk in his accord every week.

On the topic of hybrids: It was indeed a worry when they first came out, but I think as we now have seen many of the first hybrids age gracefully into the 150 and 200k range, it's possible to say they are worth putting confidence in. Priuses have been out in japan for 11 years now and there has been no major breakdown with toyota.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:12 AM   #5
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I had a 1991 Subaru Legacy that had the best seats that I have ever encountered. Not as soft as American cars, but just really supportive in all the right places. Might be worth checking out a new Subaru or a used (newer) Legacy. Fuel economy wise: you can get just above 30 mpg which is good for a car with permanent four wheel drive. Especially recommendable if you live in the North of the US.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:16 AM   #6
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It'd be nice to see you upsize both your FE and your vehicle/comfort.

Plus it's obvious you're interested in efficiency or you wouldn't be here.

That said: the Prius is a rolling parlour game for FE gamers. Go try one. If you don't like its looks, check out the Camry for "stealth" mpg gaming.

But the Prius is a more practical all around vehicle (hback).
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:12 AM   #7
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lancek -

Sorry, I only have experience in my cars. I wish there was a car show near you, you need to know the ergonomics of the car, and a car show would minimize the car dealership experience.

I just went here :

Search by MPG

I did this search :

2007 / Station Wagons / Combined MPG = 25

And got these :

Pontiac Vibe
Toyota Matrix
Ford Focus Station Wagon

Then I did this search :

2007 / Family Sedans / Combined MPG = 25

Toyota Prius
Nissan Altima Hybrid
Toyota Camry Hybrid
Hyundai Elantra
Honda Accord Hybrid
Saturn Aura Hybrid

If you want to try to maintain MPG, then I think you want to put these cars on your shopping list.

Old School SW2 EPA ... New School Civic EPA :

What's your EPA MPG? http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorSelectYear.jsp
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Do they still make the Ford Excursion? That is a good car because it is big and therefor safe. I would get that if I had a hole in my head.

I'd read up on the new Altima Hybrid or the non-hybrid Altima 5 speed or CVT with 4 cylinders. Great gas mileage and it's a big car.
three stripes the charm!

Car mods are overrated. Just gotta adjust that nut behind the wheel for best mpg.

Forget about World Peace...Visualize using your turn signal.
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You could always replace the seats in your car. Recaros are very nice.
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:48 PM   #10
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Lancek, go test drive a Santa Fe and then start praying for the day until we can get the very economical 2.2L CRD in North America (40 mpg).

Exceptionally quiet, great storage - can throw a huge 65cm bike in the back by dropping just one rear seat.

The only part that sucks is that the 2.7L has a timing belt and a either a crappy 5 speed (2900 rpm at 60) or a crappy wide spaced 4speed auto. Then if you get the 3.3L and you hate torque steer, you'll be wanting AWD although the hit on mileage for AWD is quite low - Porsche uses the same system.

27 highway is possible but not at speed.

I went shopping for a hatchback to replace an older economical minivan in July and would have never bought an SUV, but it was actually a good solution. I'm 6'6 so legroom is always a major factor in purchases.

Just be warned that if you get one, you will be the antichrist at CleanMPG!

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