winter mix fuel SUCKS

[Jay2TheRescue]

Danronian: King George is borderline whether or not its E10 year round. I know Stafford & Fredericksburg are E10 territory.

-Jay

[Lug_Nut]

I reduce the percentage biodiesel for the winter (sub-freezing) and use petroleum diesel to offset the bio's cold temperature flow issues. The petroleum diesel has about 10% higher BTU content than the bio, so my winter fuel consumption rate doesn't take much of a hit.

or for the glass-half-full types: My summer mpg doesn't rise much above my winter numbers because I use more of a lower energy density fuel by choice.

but even petroleum diesel has different blends, more D2 in the summer and increasing amounts of D1 (or kerosene) in the mix as the temperature falls or latitude moves closer to the pole. The same seasonal gripe about falling numbers with winter fuel hits the oil-heads, too

[zero_gravity]

i live in ontario, canada and we too have the 10% ethanol year round...and dont even get me started on winter mpgs. ugh. especially the short trip i take to work, any car is just barely warmed up by the time i get there not even on the really cold days. gobbles gas bad.

[Danronian]

Originally Posted by Jay2TheRescue

Danronian: King George is borderline whether or not its E10 year round. I know Stafford & Fredericksburg are E10 territory.

-Jay

I usually get gas in Fredericksburg so I'm probably on E10. Might explain why my highway MPG haven't been so great.

[Jay2TheRescue]

Filling up in the city on your weekly trip to Carl's? (or are they closed for the winter yet?)

-Jay

[GasSavers_Scott]

The Solstice' gone to 24 from 26 mpg summer, I also added more air to the tires once we got in the 30's-20's, the tires went from 28 to 21 lbs. once it got cold. Baltimore is gasoline, but all I get in Virginia or Phillie is e10.

[GasSavers_Somedude]

I feel your pain, haha, my mpg calculation from yesterday's fillup was 29.45mpg, 25% lower than the previous tank, which was 39.32 mpg. Morning temperature yesterday here in FL was in the 40s. Winter being one of the main reasons why the mpg dropped by so much.

I went the same routes as my last tank, and the tire pressure was lowered to 33 PSI from 35 PSI. Driving while not caring much for the mpg may also have contributed to the lower mpg.

At least our cars ain't getting below 20 mpg like those behemoth SUVs (H2, Escalade, etc).

[Danronian]

Originally Posted by Jay2TheRescue

Filling up in the city on your weekly trip to Carl's? (or are they closed for the winter yet?)

-Jay

I just moved here actually... What's Carl's?

I mainly go to Fredericksburg to shop, take pictures, walk around. The old-town is real nice there.

[Danronian]

Originally Posted by Jay2TheRescue

Filling up in the city on your weekly trip to Carl's? (or are they closed for the winter yet?)

-Jay

I just moved here actually... What's Carl's?

I mainly go to Fredericksburg to shop, take pictures, walk around, eat at some restaurants. The old-town is real nice there and the college, UMW, has an awesome campus to walk around.

[Jay2TheRescue]

Carl's is one of the places you just have to see if you're in the area. Its a drive-in ice cream shop that's frozen in time sometime in the 50's. He closes up shop every winter and doesn't re-open till sometime in march. Its at 2200 Princess Anne Street. From King George take route 3 accross the Chattham bridge into Old Town. As soon as you cross the bridge make a right (I think that's Sophia St) That's going to parallel the river for about 1/2 mile then make a 90 degree turn left. right after you are forced to make the left make a right on the first cross street (Can't remember the name). It will be one way on that section. Get in the left lane. Right when it changes to 2 way traffic you want to make a left, then an immediate right onto Princess Anne St. Carl's will be about 2 or 3 blocks up on the left. Be prepared for long lines on weekends and evenings.



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EDIT: I almost forgot... As long as you're there the 2400 Diner is a great place to go if you like diner food. Its a tiny diner that only seats like 20 or 30 people. Its at 2400 Princess Anne.