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Old 10-18-2007, 09:16 PM   #51
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Why delete it? Don't be ashamed of bringing anything up, it's always good to have give and take.

I say this being a mod and having been on both (right and wrong) sides of technical arguments in the past.
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Well, one of the things about certain ideas is that they ought to be evaluated before tried out. I've known about EFIE for two years but I've never tried it because I don't want my car running in a very loosely controlled lean situation...I'm sure many people are the same.

However, forums get off topic, but your post will stand and people will still see it and they may try it in the future.

How long have you been using it yourself?
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I'm not shooting you down. I'm curious. How'd you come up with your circuit?
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well the thread goes way off topic about things which do not convern efie.

i basically got shot down by a bunch of people who never even tried what i suggested.
Naw, no worries It's better to keep a dialog going


Something that I didn't see mentioned.... The biggest problem with lean conditions is emissions - it's quite easy to increase fuel economy if you completely ignore NOx (just go leaner).... Unfortunately, that's a case of a cake we can't eat

But if anyone comes up with a way to do so AND meet emissions -- you'll be able to retire early when after that's sold to an auto mfr
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ok, I'll second the motion to delete then.
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I mentioned the NOx issue! No one listens to me anymore...
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I mentioned the NOx issue! No one listens to me anymore...
Naw, I just had a hard time keeping up... This thread exploded in length and volume fast

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But if anyone comes up with a way to do so AND meet emissions -- you'll be able to retire early when after that's sold to an auto mfr
It's been done. Just not by me...
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Here's my deal, I can understand not wanting to go into lean burn blind. But with the correct monitoring would this not be simply one more thing to watch to avoid going TOO lean? I consider most modifications like this (and grill blocking) something that can be done safely but that if you gave the car like this to somebody the likelyhood of it blowing up would be high if not monitored correctly.

Does that make any sense?

In my case I am going to have full monitoring of my onboard computer knowing exact temperatures and anything else that is spat out. With that information I would think I would be able to tell if I was going too lean and be able to set up an alarm for me to "turn the knob down" if need be.


To the skeptic, if Honda did everything right in building their cars, and built the Civic vx/insight with lean burn then would this not be a good thing to imitate carefully? You can't say lean burn is always bad and then say that Honda is knowing what they are doing without contridicting yourself.
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