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Old 04-08-2009, 05:20 AM   #131
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I'm not so quick to call something a failure or to go as far as to add a bunch of mess to my signature of all of this. it makes me wonder why others care so much and quite frankly, why they are here in the first place
I've tested it and proven it doesn't work. So have others. It doesn't work.
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Old 04-08-2009, 05:22 AM   #132
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You haven't done significant A-B-A testing. A-B, and one more tank is A-B-A, but butt dyno, your wanting it to fail, etc., have likely contributed. Do SIGNIFICANT testing - like A-B-A, 5 tankfuls on each. WAI may not work on YOUR vehicle, either. It does work for some, but not for all. That has been established.

You'll note my vehicle is in the top 10 for % over EPA, btw - and it's an automatic, so I can make claims about getting significant mileage increases from a position of security.

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8 days later of a WAI and here are the results.

Today I filled up again.
263.0 miles (difference of 6.6 miles or 2.5% from last test):
11.566 gallons used (exact same station and pump uesd):
For an MPG of 22.73. That's a loss of 0.14 mpg with the WAI.
Conclusion: FAILURE

There is statistically ZERO benefit from a WAI. It doesn't appear to hurt mileage but it does not help. And with the obvious loss of power this is not a modification anyone should do unless the engine and computer are designed for lean burn.

I'm hooking the cold air duct back up and seeing the difference next week.
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Old 04-08-2009, 05:22 AM   #133
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I've tested it and proven it doesn't work. So have others. It doesn't work.
I've tested it and provent that it DOES work. So have others. My others are actually posting on this very thread.

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Whoa...I got trumped by the big man. What's going on 101. heard anything about the bumper stickers? probably a bad place to ask
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Old 04-08-2009, 05:27 AM   #134
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You haven't done significant A-B-A testing.
Yes I have. I'm in the process of completing the last A test. Have YOU done and A-B-A testing of a WAI?

To quote your friend BEEF:
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I don't see you doing any testing. it is easy to discredit someone elses efforts. where are yours? he is at least doing something.
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Old 04-08-2009, 05:37 AM   #135
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that is back when you had done NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and now you have done one small test and think that your results are the tell all that ends all. good luck selling your results on this site.

I think that many on here have established that it works for CERTAIN vehicles and if I am not mistaken, aren't you the odd man out. you have found one other guy that it hasn't worked for (I understand that there are more than one). the majority has seen gains. the minority isn't wrong in that they haven't seen gains but to say that because you didn't see gains that it was a failure is just absurd but that has been discussed too.

you don't even have temperatures to back up your claims. you may have went too far. you may have been sucking in 250 degree air or maybe there was no air temp difference. you were just expecting that power loss and "dyno butt" felt it if it was there or not. what was the point of your test again???
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Old 04-08-2009, 05:42 AM   #136
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I hate to discourage posting, but I have to wonder:

Everyone else - Do you expect that enough of your logic and data will convince NovaResource?

NovaResource - Do you expect that enough of your logic and data will convince everyone else?

Why is everyone continuing to talk about the same theories and cite the same data repeatedly?
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Old 04-08-2009, 05:45 AM   #137
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if I am not mistaken, aren't you the odd man out.
Yep, I am. A newbie comes in with different ideas and proof that differs from your theories and you just want to silence him. So yes, I'm the odd man out. Sorry for upsetting your apple cart.
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I remembered starting a similar thread way back and thought I could add some positive info to this very negative and heated topic. I went into looking at the WAI with a non-biased attitude and if it didn't work for mine, oh well. luckily for me, it did work...at least for my application.
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Nova... I give you credit with your testing... But I think you're rubbing a lot of people the wrong way with speaking in absolutes:

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Bottom line: a warm air intake does not improve fuel economy.
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WAI does not improve fuel economy. It just robs power.
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Bottom line: a WAI is not a mileage improver. And it can damage your engine.
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I've tested it and proven it doesn't work. So have others. It doesn't work.
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:01 AM   #140
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Just a note to add here. Today I had lots of driving in stop & go traffic. Ambient air was 50F, and my intake air was 118F. Water temp was 191F. This is only with a 95% grille block, and taking the lid off of the air cleaner box so it draws warm air from the engine bay.

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