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Old 04-13-2008, 02:32 PM   #1
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HHO vs water vapor injection

I received a phone call from a fellow HHO experimenter who says he is removing his website and dropping HHO in favor of water injection. He claims WI is just as effective without the hassle and expense.

I have tried both systems, but not at the same time. Has anyone heard any credible evidence that would support the claim that WI is just as good as HHO?
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I've leaned my engine out too ping and misfire in all load conditions. When i turn the water on and advance the timing all the power comes back. The key is metering and atomization. I'm working on a system now that has no valves or moveing parts. Not even a float bowl.
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:04 PM   #3
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Was that in conjunction with HHO, or instead of?
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Old 04-13-2008, 04:29 PM   #4
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Was that in conjunction with HHO, or instead of?
No HHO. BTW I just gained almost 15 RWHP on my 97 F150 with a HAFC kit on it. NOT kidding!!
The way I'm injecting water in it the ECM is automatically advancing the timing. It's posted on the web somewhere how I'm doing it, but the site is down. I have not used the water yet on my F150
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Old 04-14-2008, 06:57 AM   #5
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i'd like to know more on water injection and what kits are available.
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Here's a good article.

http://www.autospeed.com/A_107970/cms/article.html
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Old 04-14-2008, 08:33 AM   #7
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I have the one from Snowperformance.net. It uses windshield washer fluid (20%meth/80%) water approx.

On diesels it increases your mileage by 1.6mpg. The second bonus is that it will clean out your combustion chamber of all of its carbon. If you have ever seen how perfectly clean a combustion chamber is when you are replacing a blown headgasket you will understand why this is a great upgarde.

I just went to the site they now have a max mpg version for diesels.
this is from one of their .pdf files.

Also, fresh methanol ? less than 1 month old when exposed to atmosphere ? and using a greater methanol concentration ? up to 50% -will reduce combustion quench.
100% water will cool combustion and EGTs and will increase power
approx 20-30 HP.
75/25 water/methanol will reduce EGTs and power will increase
approximately 40 HP.
50/50 water/methanol will reduce EGTs and increase power
approximately 70+ HP.
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http://www.water-4-fuel.com/

hey i just saw this. its one of this sites sponsors. what you guys think?
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LasPointe tested it and found no gain.

I tested it and found no gain...but I'm just an idiot.

Some think steam helps.

I think that maybe some water vapor is being put out by HHO generators...espec when run too warm.
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There are several kits, but most are made more for increased performance, rather than increased mpg. I think the right person could get it to work for increased mpg, with the right nozzles and tuning.

Some discussion is here
http://www.aquamist.co.uk/phpBB2/vie...59741eb93e2ca9
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