Saturn TDI for S-Series
 

Hello -

I just found this over at saturnfans :

Saturn TDI
https://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...41#post1128641
CarloSW2

Hope he can pull more than 50MPG with that setup. Will be interested to see this project through and see the outcome.

...why?

I could see doing this with an ultra-low-weight car, but why move a TDI from a VW to a Saturn..?

I guess if you had a non-running Saturn and a TDI engine just sitting around, then it might make sense, but otherwise you would be MUCH better off just getting a VW with a TDI in it to begin with!!!

Erdrick -

Because he can! If he's registered at sixthsphere, then he is probably a Saturn junkie.

He may be going from 3000 lbs to 2300+ lbs. But, again, see above.

See above.

CarloSW2

So far I've seen 'em stuffed in a Suzuki Samurai, Toyota pickup, and all sorts of VWs (Corrado, Rabbit, etc...).A Saturn weighs as much as an older VW, and has half the drag coefficient/reference area. Should be good for ~70-80mpg@55mph.

omgwtfbyobbq -

Thanks for the correction. I was going off of the curb weight of the newer 2006 models.

CarloSW2

Wow, considering the only four door TDI available was the Jetta, that engine's gonna have ~1000lbs less to pull around. It'll be similar to a TDI in a bunny, some of which run high 13s quarter miles w/ mods and can get ~50mpg@70mph, except it'll be a little slower, and get significantly better highway mileage.

omgwtfbyobbq -

I think I will ask him more questions on saturnfans and/or join sixthsphere because there is a sixthsphere "member-only" thread on his "how to do it" musings over the last year or two.

CarloSW2

Alright then, I stand... informed. Perhaps I should have looked at some weight references before commenting.

I should say that I own a Jetta TDI.

It's np. If I lost a tooth for every time I had to stick my foot in my mouth I'd need dentures before I hit thirty. :D

They also have one in a 4runner. The Samurai/ Sidekick conversions use Toyota mounting hardware and parts, so someone went a step further and dropped it into a 4runner with a blown 3L V6.

It will be interesting to see how the project turns out.
I have been researching putting the TDI engine w/ Toyota RWD trans in a Triumph Spitfire.

Erdrick -
I would say you're more right than wrong. Here are the specs :

1997 Volkswagen Jetta TDI Sedan Specifications
https://www.automotive.com/1997/101/v...ons/index.html
1215 kg = 2673 lbs

1995 Saturn S-Series Specifications
https://www.automotive.com/1995/12/sa...ons/index.html
1070 kg = 2354 lbs

Sooooo, 2673 - 2354 = 319 lbs lighter, but that is not taking into account the difference in weight of the engines. The Saturn engine is an aluminum block, so it's gotta be lighter. The dude says that he thinks the VW engine weighs about 290 lbs. Finally, I think the Saturn wagon (the dude's future/final car target) weighs more than 2354 lbs.

CarloSW2

Four door TDI In the US/Canada:
1996~97 Passat (B4)
1997~99.5 Jetta (A3)
1999~present Jetta (A4, A5)
2000~2005 Golf (A4)
2001~2005? Passat (B5.5)
Touareg (if that beast counts as a 'four-door') to present
There were also reportedly three B5 Passat (1998) and two A3 Golf (not known if 2 or 4 door) brought in, but like the Loch Ness monster and Sasquatch, these have not had benefit of irrefutable photographic evidence.

I was referring to new sales. For some reason (Doh!) I thought Erdick was talking about new TDIs.