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GTGallop 09-15-2013 05:55 AM

Hybrid Designation and EV Miles
Wondering if there was a way to flag a car as a hybrid when you select it for your garage. Example all Prius and Volt are hybrid, but when I compare Ford Fusions (some hybrid / some not) I get ALL Fusions. I just want the Hyb's. Also, can I track my EV miles somewhere?

BDC 09-15-2013 08:49 AM

Under the engine selection drop-down menu, select "Hybrid" instead of "Gas."

When you browse under Fusion hybrids, you can sort by engine type. Do the same thing, select "Hybrid L4" instead of "Gas L4."

However, Fuelly is not the right website for tracking EV miles for plug-in vehicles. If you have an "energi" plug-in hybrid, please make sure not note this in your vehicle details so as not to unintentionally mislead. Fuelly does not have a solution to plug-in hybrids since it is designed around "filling up" the gas tank.

However, if your car is just a regular hybrid (with no wall charger), there is no need to mark how many miles are traveled under electric power. Since all the electric energy that powers the car originates in the gas tank (via regenerative braking), they are still considered "gasoline miles." "Electric miles" for a plug-in hybrid would need to be recorded with the exact amount of electricity that was taken from the power grid to move the vehicle, and Fuelly does not yet have a solution to this problem at this time.

Hope you can eventually meet the EPA ratings. Not a lot of Fusion owners able to do that. I am surprised that Ford has got away with it this far.

MMUK 09-15-2013 04:58 PM

>Hope you can eventually meet the EPA ratings. Not a lot of Fusion owners

>able to do that. I am surprised that Ford has got away with it this far.

Apparently to save testing time, the EPA allows you to test one model of car, and then if another model is vaguely similar (running gear & engine), you can use the figures from the first test on the second car. Regardless of aerodynamics. So naturally ford tested the most aerodynamic model & used that figure for all the other hybrids on a similar platform.


BDC 09-15-2013 10:55 PM

I was indeed talking about the Fusion which is the vehicle that the new hybrid power train was tested in. Nobody is getting EPA mileage in Fusions either. Ford got away scot free on the Fusions thanks to the Cmax taking all the bad press.

Note that the first generation Fusion hybrid was vastly overrated as well.

Draigflag 09-15-2013 11:03 PM

Just checked them out, 45 to 49 MPG seems pretty low for a hybrid, what gives? The Yaris hybrid gets 83 MPG, almost double.

JDsEnergi 09-16-2013 04:37 AM

The Fusion is a mid size sedan and in most cases, fully loaded with luxury and tech, so 45 to 49 is very good. Plus it has a lot of performance (but that does come at a lost of mpg).

I have the Energi and love it. Fuelly needs an option for the PHEV version of the Fusion.

Draigflag 09-16-2013 05:27 AM

Its terrible for a hybrid. In Europe, a car that size needs to get at least 40 to 50 MPG anyway, hybrid technology should push that higher to 70 or 80 MPG. In a way I feel sorry for Americans, they get such rubbish cars compared to the rest of the world. I know fuel consumption isnt a priority as fuel is still cheaper than dirt, but if cars can get high MPG elsewhere, why not in the US?

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