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14Corolla 04-17-2016 09:34 AM

I really don't think so...
 
This article claims the death of the sedan and small car. Just wait for fuel prices to go back up. They'll come flocking back to these.
Besides...I think fuel prices are as low as they are because: The Saudi's are choking ISIS. It's a military move.

Death of the sedan: Americans have fallen out of love with small cars - MarketWatch

Draigflag 04-17-2016 11:27 AM

There's been a definite shift towards small SUV'S or crossovers here in Europe too. I can understand why, as the article says, clever lightweight construction, improved aerodynamic development and highly efficient modern engines have made SUVs just as efficient as small/medium sized cars now. If people can afford the extra space and practicality, they will. It's not uncommon here to get SUV'S that do 40,50 even 60+ UK MPG now, I've almost considered one myself.

14Corolla 04-17-2016 11:57 AM

It's not at all that way here in the US. The small SUV's and trucks don't come close. Otherwise I might have considered one. The Rav4 here is rated 23/30. The CRV here is rated 26/33.
My car: 29/38. And I'm confident I'll end up with ~40 daily driving.

Draigflag 04-17-2016 02:22 PM

Also don't forget, with the market slowly switching to electric, introduced initially by hybrid and plug ins, an SUV body style is more suited. The extra height, length, width and therefore interior space provides ample room to stash extra motors, batteries and the like, which may explain why the best selling plug in Hybrid here is the Mitsubishi Outlander SUV rated at 148 UK MPG.

On saying that, small cars will always be popular in most parts of Europe due to the historic geography. The buildings were here long before cars, thousands of years before in some places. You throw a few million vehicles in narrow streets designed for horses and carts, and you get the idea!

benlovesgoddess 04-17-2016 02:23 PM

Impressive figures, well driven, well built that Corolla!

14Corolla 04-17-2016 04:43 PM

Didn't have a place to post this. So am posting it here.
https://www.fuelly.com/attachments/fo...bf0270256f.jpg

14Corolla 04-17-2016 07:10 PM

Draigflag.... I sure understand your points. Small SUV's are nice. If they were more like in the UK. I might have bought one instead. Lets not forget the nicest part. They have an exclusive door just for doggies. I love doggies.
The Mitsubishi site here does say they plan to offer a hybrid of that SUV in the future. Things might be looking up for the US.

And thank you, ben. For the nice compliment.

Draigflag 04-18-2016 08:56 AM

On the topic of sedans, or saloons as we call them, they are still very popular with hi miler sales reps here, who travel the all over the UK. They too, like SUV'S have improved immensely in all aspects. The Jaguar XF gets close to 60 UK MPG on the motorway, according to green car when they tested it. No doubt the smaller, lighter XE with the same engine would be even more efficient. Link to the review:

Jaguar XF 2.0 i4 Diesel 163PS Manual CAR REVIEW - GreenCarGuide.co.uk

trollbait 04-18-2016 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 14Corolla (Post 188144)
It's not at all that way here in the US. The small SUV's and trucks don't come close. Otherwise I might have considered one. The Rav4 here is rated 23/30. The CRV here is rated 26/33.
My car: 29/38. And I'm confident I'll end up with ~40 daily driving.

Those are no longer small SUVs. The upcoming CHR and HRV are those makes small SUVs.

As to small cars going away, the redesigned Cruze actually shrank compared to the outgoing model.

Skydaver 04-26-2016 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 14Corolla (Post 188147)
Didn't have a place to post this. So am posting it here.
https://www.fuelly.com/attachments/fo...bf0270256f.jpg

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