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GasSavers_DaX 05-04-2006 06:17 AM

Atlanta Auto Show
 
I'm going today...my friend just bought a new car and the dealer gave him eight VIP tickets.

I'll be sure and pay extra close attention with my camera to the Hybrids and alternative fuel displays and report back.

kickflipjr 05-04-2006 07:43 AM

Also check out the fit/
 
Also check out the fit/ versa/ yaris.

rh77 05-04-2006 08:00 AM

Definitely
 
I drove past the Honda dealer last night, and they had a Fit on the lot! I pulled right in. It was after hours but everything was unlocked on it! I got in and it's not too bad. It has a nice Honda-esque dash and a Matrix/Vibe-like rear. The seat configurations are abundant. Too bad it looks so dorky. Definitely look at the Yaris -- we only had the Sedan back in March, so the Hatch might be on the floor. I'd love to see the Versa -- no luck yet.

edit: also really push alternative energy and FE to the floor people -- sometimes they have "spies" that gather the "word on the street".

GasSavers_DaX 05-05-2006 05:15 AM

Here's the pictures!
 
Here's the pictures!

TOYOTA YARIS SEDAN

https://photos-466.facebook.com/n29/1...13466_4903.jpg

https://photos-467.facebook.com/n29/1...13467_5433.jpg

https://photos-469.facebook.com/n29/1...13469_6367.jpg

https://photos-468.facebook.com/n29/1...13468_5877.jpg



TOYOTA YARIS HATCHBACK

https://photos-470.facebook.com/n29/1...13470_6800.jpg

https://photos-472.facebook.com/n29/1...13472_7763.jpg

https://photos-474.facebook.com/n29/1...13474_8722.jpg

https://photos-473.facebook.com/n29/1...13473_8280.jpg

https://photos-471.facebook.com/n29/1...13471_7332.jpg



TOYOTA PRIUS

https://photos-476.facebook.com/n29/1...13476_9609.jpg

https://photos-475.facebook.com/n29/1...13475_9167.jpg



DIESEL POWER!!!!

https://photos-497.facebook.com/n29/1...13497_9684.jpg



STEVE GETS TO DRIVE THE NEW GTI

https://photos-498.facebook.com/n29/1...513498_221.jpg



NISSAN VERSA

https://photos-502.facebook.com/n29/1...13502_1971.jpg

https://photos-503.facebook.com/n29/1...13503_2455.jpg



HONDA FIT - (of course my favorite!)

https://photos-504.facebook.com/n29/1...13504_2976.jpg

Steve shows everyone how much room there is in the back with the seats folded down:
https://photos-507.facebook.com/n29/1...13507_4682.jpg

Steve showing again how much room there is in here:
https://photos-512.facebook.com/n29/1...13512_7099.jpg

I show everyone how pimp I look behind the wheel:
https://photos-508.facebook.com/n29/1...13508_5116.jpg

Look! My head's as big as an engine!
https://photos-510.facebook.com/n29/1...13510_6117.jpg

https://photos-511.facebook.com/n29/1...13511_6636.jpg

https://photos-509.facebook.com/n29/1...13509_5577.jpg

https://photos-513.facebook.com/n29/1...13513_7567.jpg

https://photos-514.facebook.com/n29/1...13514_8044.jpg

https://photos-506.facebook.com/n29/1...13506_3880.jpg

https://photos-505.facebook.com/n29/1...13505_3448.jpg

TRICKED OUT HONDA FIT

https://photos-521.facebook.com/n29/1...13521_1269.jpg

https://photos-522.facebook.com/n29/1...13522_1753.jpg

Pimped out cars still get the sticker!
https://photos-523.facebook.com/n29/1...13523_2203.jpg



HONDA CIVIC Si

https://photos-515.facebook.com/n29/1...13515_8387.jpg

SEXY 18" HFP wheels:
https://photos-516.facebook.com/n29/1...13516_8870.jpg

https://photos-517.facebook.com/n29/1...13517_9314.jpg

https://photos-518.facebook.com/n29/1...13518_9757.jpg

https://photos-519.facebook.com/n29/1...513519_316.jpg



HONDA CIVIC HYBRID

https://photos-526.facebook.com/n29/1...13526_4738.jpg

Bet I was the only dork to lay on the floor and shoot the underbelly. Rear tray:
https://photos-527.facebook.com/n29/1...13527_5184.jpg

Front tray:
https://photos-528.facebook.com/n29/1...13528_5665.jpg

https://photos-525.facebook.com/n29/1...13525_4286.jpg

https://photos-524.facebook.com/n29/1...13524_3668.jpg



SCION XB - some love for JanGeo

https://photos-529.facebook.com/n29/1...13529_6202.jpg



FERRARI F430 SPIDER F1

https://photos-530.facebook.com/n29/1...13530_6637.jpg

And the worst gas mileage at the show goes to:
https://photos-531.facebook.com/n29/1...13531_7073.jpg



Now for the fun stuff. We got to drive Toyota Tundras and Toyota Tacomas through a road course!

https://photos-532.facebook.com/n29/1...513532_714.jpg

https://photos-533.facebook.com/n29/1...13533_1094.jpg

https://photos-534.facebook.com/n29/1...13534_1513.jpg

Compaq888 05-05-2006 06:29 AM

it's just sad how the yaris
 
it's just sad how the yaris and the fit suck at fuel economy. Especially the Fit. If I were the car manufacturer I would of added another gear in the transmission. Another gear would of helped the fuel economy. I'm also sure those 2 cars don't even turn off their injectors on decelaration.

Sludgy 05-05-2006 06:45 AM

Neither the Fit not the
 
Neither the Fit not the Yaris offer EPA fuel efficiency gains over the Civic and Corolla, despite being smaller and equipped with less powerful engines. Why would anybody buy them?

Both manufacturers could have equipped these vehicles with smaller, Japanese-market engines, and handily beat the mileage of the Civic and Corolla. You have to wonder what Honda and Toyota were smoking. Hemp, crank, or crack?

kickflipjr 05-05-2006 09:15 AM

Quote:Bet I was the only
 
Quote:

Bet I was the only dork to lay on the floor and shoot the underbelly.
I bet you were :D The cars look awesome. I am not a big fan of center mounted gauges like the yaris, echo, and xb has.

Quote:

STEVE GETS TO DRIVE THE NEW GTI
they had that at the pittsburgh auto show too. Some kid was using it and said, "I can feel the speed senisitvie steering". It was funny because he was like 10 years old.

GasSavers_DaX 05-05-2006 09:17 AM

Re: Quote:Bet I was the only
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kickflipjr
I bet you were :D The cars look awesome. I am not a big fan of center mounted gauges like the yaris, echo, and xb has.

Yeah, me either.

philmcneal 05-05-2006 10:38 AM

awesome pics! indeed the
 
awesome pics!

indeed the only car i have hope in is the honda fit HYBRID ;P small cars rule.

JanGeo 05-05-2006 10:47 AM

Thanks DaX
 
Nice shots DaX - you gotta love the way they stuff the VVT-i Engine in the Yaris. You have to get used to the gauges in the center - what it does is allow you to have more important gauges in front of you like the GPS and the ScanGauge. Getting them out from behind the steering wheel is a good idea because the passenger can see them better and adjusting the wheel tilt is unrestricked. Besides no one is looking at the stinking speedo anyway.

The Yaris is going to get better gas mileage than what they are reporting if the engine is broken in properly but considering the other Honda's with the vtec getting in the low 30's well....

Nice belly pan shots !!!

Enjoy the xB because 2006 is the last year.

Compaq888 05-05-2006 10:55 AM

are they coming out with
 
are they coming out with something new for 2007, maybe updated XB?

tomauto 05-05-2006 11:26 AM

fit
 
I would only buy a fit with the diesel personally. It has a very nice torque curve. Bense on Honda-Tech showed me the light to this website

https://asia.vtec.net/Series/FitJazz/lseries/

JanGeo 05-05-2006 01:29 PM

xB
 
Rumor is a new body for 2008 maybe - extended trunk - not sure - or maybe a BB lower roof line like it was chopped.

Matt Timion 05-05-2006 01:32 PM

Looking at the fit, I think
 
Looking at the fit, I think I'd get a hybrid version of it. I like how much room is in the back with the seat down.

Now, a hybrid diesel Fit? I'm dreaming.

tomauto 05-05-2006 02:45 PM

diesel fit
 
Who has made a diesel hybrid? It would be amazing to see that combo.

SVOboy 05-05-2006 03:37 PM

VW makes the Golf ECO.power
 
VW makes the Golf ECO.power in Europe. Gets a whole 15% better FE than a straight up diesel. VW doesn't like hybrids though, so yakno.

tomauto 05-05-2006 04:37 PM

ECO.power
 
Impressive. I always wonder why that many more brands wouldn't do this too. But I think in the end it would add too much cost to the buyer. How does it sell in Europe?

SVOboy 05-05-2006 05:57 PM

I've never seen any sales
 
I've never seen any sales statistics. I didn't particularly care since VW doesn't like hybrids I figure their hybrids aren't worth paying attention to. It's very new also, I wrote an article involving it but it was pre-consumer launch. I wonder though.

tomauto 05-05-2006 11:05 PM

bad rep
 
for all the bad rep that the current gasoline hybrids get as of now, I dont see any disel hybrid getting a better review. Maybe even worse...I guess you could consider it a double step of sorts. Why would a person want to bite the bullet of switching from gasoline to disel (which is significant)...and then to the hybrid powertrain?

It all depends on fuel prices. Economists would change their mind about the benifit of hybrids at say...$5.

SVOboy 05-06-2006 05:57 AM

Well, in europe it's
 
Well, in europe it's obvious. Over half of all cars in europe are being sold as diesels, so it's not really making the double switch. VW's philosophy is that diesel is the future and not hybridization, but they kinda got forced into making the hybrid through market pressure, so they did, *shrug*

Matt Timion 05-06-2006 10:06 AM

Did anyone else notice just
 
Did anyone else notice just how similar all of these cars look?

https://photos-470.facebook.com/n29/1...13470_6800.jpg

https://photos-476.facebook.com/n29/1...13476_9609.jpg

https://photos-502.facebook.com/n29/1...13502_1971.jpg

https://photos-504.facebook.com/n29/1...13504_2976.jpg

Where is the originality?

SVOboy 05-06-2006 10:31 AM

Quote:Where is the
 
Quote:

Where is the originality?
Where's the CRX?

Anyway, I talked to drdisco about the Fit and he said it's been honda's game for a while now to wait for the new style, copy it, and then make it better so that it outsells the people who put the money into the originality.

Matt Timion 05-06-2006 10:55 AM

Re: Quote:Where is the
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVOboy
Anyway, I talked to drdisco about the Fit and he said it's been honda's game for a while now to wait for the new style, copy it, and then make it better so that it outsells the people who put the money into the originality.

Ah yes... capitalism at it's best.

Then again, I'm sure I'll be doing the same thing with a few sites I'm going ot be putting up soon.

rh77 05-06-2006 02:45 PM

Funny
 
It's funny how the new Versa looks nothing like a toned-down version of Nissan's parent company vehicle, Renault's Mégane.

https://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL698.../144714018.jpg

Yes, Nissan is mostly owned by the people who brought us "Le Car".


SVOboy 05-06-2006 04:15 PM

Renault is da shit, though,
 
Renault is da ****, though, homie.

GasSavers_DaX 05-07-2006 06:29 AM

Re: fit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomauto
I would only buy a fit with the diesel personally. It has a very nice torque curve. Bense on Honda-Tech showed me the light to this website

https://asia.vtec.net/Series/FitJazz/lseries/

That was an EXCELLENT and refreshing read. I now have much confidence in the L-Series platform.

tomauto 05-07-2006 05:02 PM

it was!
 
Bense finds great information. It was truly inspiring to see the people at Honda push themselves to the next level.


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