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luv2spd 05-23-2020 02:45 PM

EV vs. Gas: Which Cars Are Cheaper to Own?
 
Here is a recent article from Car And Driver:

https://www.caranddriver.com/shoppin...heaper-to-own/

Here is a list showing which EVs have the longest range, their price, and MPGe:

https://www.caranddriver.com/shoppin...driving-range/

luv2spd 05-23-2020 02:56 PM

It looks lie the 2020 Hyundai Ioniq Electric is the most energy efficient vehicle on sale in North America at a combined 133MPGe. I thought the Tesla 3 or the Kona was the best. Anyways, this is according to the EPA.

LDB 06-23-2020 09:28 AM

Interesting articles.

JimiCollins 06-24-2020 01:19 AM

usefull articles , just yesterday I was thinking about it, and today I find this post :D

trollbait 06-24-2020 07:33 AM

A major financial company(UBS?) released a report last year predicting BEVs would reach total cost parity with ICE cars this year, in Europe. The difference between the fuel prices is a big factor.
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Originally Posted by luv2spd (Post 201098)
It looks lie the 2020 Hyundai Ioniq Electric is the most energy efficient vehicle on sale in North America at a combined 133MPGe. I thought the Tesla 3 or the Kona was the best. Anyways, this is according to the EPA.

The standard range, RWD Model 3 is 141mpge combined.

luv2spd 06-25-2020 06:27 PM

I just went to the EPA's website and you are right. Having said that, the Hyundai Ioniq is $10,000 cheaper than the Model 3 standard. That's a huge difference, even if the Model 3 has double the range. I see a lot more Teslas around here than any other EVs which is unusual considering the large asking price for Teslas.

Draigflag 06-25-2020 11:07 PM

My issue is I just don't do enough miles to make fuel cost saving worthwhile. I'm an enthusiast so my cars are for pleasure purposes only, I don't need to commute, and long journeys are very rare. There are some ev's I really like, the Peugeot e208 and its alleged upcoming all electric gti version, the crossover e2008 is a stunning looking car too, but they are around the £30k mark. So as an enthusiast, I see what exotica I can get for that, BMW M4, M6, Aston Martin V8 Vantage, a tuned 700 bhp Bentley Continental, various Porches, all of which would have several thousand in change too. And when you factor in near zero depreciation to help even out running costs, I just can't bring myself to splash the cash on a modern EV yet.

trollbait 06-26-2020 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by luv2spd (Post 201256)
I just went to the EPA's website and you are right. Having said that, the Hyundai Ioniq is $10,000 cheaper than the Model 3 standard. That's a huge difference, even if the Model 3 has double the range. I see a lot more Teslas around here than any other EVs which is unusual considering the large asking price for Teslas.

The difference is around $5000 in the US.

The Supercharger network is a big advantage for Tesla, as is the performance. Then there could be supply issues with the Ioniq. Early on, Hyundai didn't have the battery supply lined up to meet demand.

What about the Kona Electric around you? The Ioniq has plenty of range for most people, but the public hasn't emotionally accepted that yet. With the Model 3 available in two ranges, Ioniq plus Kona might be a better comparison to it.

luv2spd 06-26-2020 05:35 PM

In the past number of years, I saw one Kona, one iMiev and one i3. In comparison, I see Teslas almost every day; there is also a few Volts and Leafs around. Also, the Ioniq is rare as well, even though they come in three versions I think I only seen one EV at the dealer.

mohenry 09-23-2020 12:37 AM

Interesting article. The Hyundai Ioniq Electric looks promising.


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