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SVOboy 08-22-2006 06:18 PM

BTU content E10/E85/Gas/Diesel
 
Anyone have a link on hand? I thought it was on the site but I haven't been able to find it. Thanks!

omgwtfbyobbq 08-22-2006 07:23 PM

From Google,

1 gal of gasoline=124,884btu
1 gal of No.2 diesel=138,874btu
1 gal E100=~77,000btu
1 gal of E85=84,460btu
1 gal of E10=~120,096btu

YMMV

SVOboy 08-22-2006 07:24 PM

Thanks! Why do I suck at search!

Matt Timion 08-22-2006 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVOboy
Thanks! Why do I suck at search!

You suck at the internets. :p

GasSavers_Ryland 08-23-2006 09:10 PM

and bio-diesel appears to be around 130,000 btu per gallon, altho it varries slightly depending on the oil used, or so says "the internet"

Silveredwings 08-25-2006 01:09 PM

E10 is like taking a 4% hit...unless it's atleast 4% cheaper. :)

DracoFelis 08-25-2006 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silveredwings
E10 is like taking a 4% hit...unless it's atleast 4% cheaper. :)

But that's assuming that the FE is linear with BTUs.

However, some car's ECUs can adjust timing, to burn ethanol more efficiently. So, depending upon your vehicle, the lower FE might not be anywhere near as bad as the lower BTU's would imply...

SVOboy 08-25-2006 03:40 PM

Did you adjust your timing at all while running the straight E85?

DracoFelis 08-25-2006 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVOboy
Did you adjust your timing at all while running the straight E85?

I never claimed I run E85 in my CRX. In fact, I don't run E85 in any of the family's vehicles, as I don't have any cars that are designed for it (and would therefore be concerned about ethanol's corrosive effects, when used in too high a concentration). However, a co-worker of mine has a flex-fuel van, and reports that his van's FE only goes down about 10%-15% on E85 (much less than the BTU difference would indicate).

NOTE: He can currently get E85 for around $0.90/gal cheaper then E10 (although he does have to drive about 15 miles out of his way, to get that E85 price). But even with the extra trip to fill up on "corn juice", and the lower FE of doing so, he still thinks he is saving a fair amount (and given the much lower price of E85, I think he is right).

As to my CRX, I'm still trying to figure out which fuel my car like's the best. Most of the stuff around here is E10, and so that's often what I use. But there is one station advertising "no ethanol" in their fuel i.e. presumably pure dino juice). However, when I last filled up at that station, both my power and my FE went down some (even though the higher BTUs of pure dino juice, should have resulted in a little more power and FE)! And when I later filled up with E10 (on the next tank full), the car's power picked up almost instantly.

So I'm really left "scratching my head" as to what fuel to use. And while it is clear that total BTUs/gal makes a difference in FE, it clearly isn't the only factor in FE. And in some cases, a lower BTU fuel might actually give you better FE in some engines (especially if the engine in question, is happier with the burn properties of the slightly lower BTU fuel).

SVOboy 08-25-2006 04:17 PM

I was talking to the clencher about the timing, sorry for not being more explicit!

Anyway, that is odd. I've never noticed a difference with any gas, anything in the tank, any change in intake, exhaust, nothing. Hell, I can't even tell the difference with MPFI besides the sound, but mehbe that's just because I never hit 2k rpms even, :p


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