Hi FormulaTwo

Your exactly rite.
The abilty to chirp the tyres on the gearchange is completely pointless (I dont undertsand the hobby of drifting either) - it means nothing at all.

well, matt, what he means is that when he is desires to put his car in open loop (i.e. flooring it) and shifts from 1 -> 2 ...and then gets the sensation of the tires squeaking (slipping....loss of grip) is apperently what he is looking for,

Ah... that's what chirping is.

So in other words, ruining tires is cool :thumbup:

I'm confused, I thought it was sloppy shifting and bad traction that was cool.

I dont understand the need to chirp 3rd. But my Civic will do it. LMAO,, Or roast them right off thru 4th. Yes Ive done it.

As for drifting. We use to do it all the time on gravel roads. Our contest was to get on a straigtht gravel road. At the agreeded start line. A tree or something. You where to pitch the car of your choice and see how long you could go sideways down a straight road. We charged $5.00 a run in any group. Longist of that group took the pot. It was good fun! And them money was good if the group you ran in had 8 or 10 cars in it. :)

Theres a good chance your car could possibly chirp while shifting to third. Your clutch has to be in excellent condition though. Back in my young(er) and stupid(er) days, I used to chirp second gear in my old Accord just to do it. After doing it a while it simply wouldnt happen anymore. Then when I bought my bone stock Integra, the first time I took it out for a spirited drive, I chirped 2nd and 3rd gear, but that was the only time I chirped third ever. Keep on being dumb like I was, and you will have to deal with bad synchros; this happened to my Integra after 2.5 years of thrashing it. I have made it a point not to abuse my current car, I havent reached 4000 rpms in probably about 1000 miles.

Stick in a racing clutch, and you'll be albe to chirp every gear, a few times, then the tranny will go :)

And how much of your drive train do you want to break?

Ya needs a heavier flywheel and a really sticky clutch!

Back in my dark ages , one of my (not so close firends) had a late 70's (mk2) Ford Escort with a stock 1600 pushrod engine.

It probably had 85HP , but he was intent on doing burnouts etc.
So he used the rev it to max and drop the clutch idea.
It did make some noise , but every few months he would make even more noise by tearing teeth off the differential or gearbox.

later , in partnership with a close friend of mine we were developing a turbocharged Cortina , which used a similar engine but was making about 150 to 200 hp.
This car had basicaly the same driveline as a Mk2 Escort but we had almost no trouble with gearboxes and diffs breaking off teeth.
The teeth wore heavily and they need replacement every 6 months due to wear , but not from breakage.

Finally we installed a 3 speed C3 auto in it which solved a lot of problems and a larger diff.

Yup , that was one sik car.
I remember one time when we were racing against a locally made GM car (holden monaro) that had a big block chevrolet engine in it.
The race started at 100mph and we blew it to the weeds., which is not what they were expecting.

All this back in the days before fuel injection when no one had thought 4 cylinders could be fast.


Anyway , the point is , that its quite easy to break a car from abuse even if you dont have much power.

Drifting, hmmm
Im not really "for" roasting my tires for a thrill. I do not exactly own a RWD car either.
BUT, Drifting is a good experience and is BLOWING up in the car "scene" here in NC.
It is a good way to get to know the car you are driving. If you ever do decide to race and the car gets sideways you will be more comfortable.
It also gives drivers lots of opportunities as stunt drivers in movies.

So really not a BAD thing, but not what im into either.
I have thought a lot lately about a RWD EV made for drifting. To bring more attention to EV's.
If someone could dominate the drifting events in an EV it would spark some inspiration.
But then again, i have never driven an electric car, so im not sure how it would work out.