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kickflipjr 10-29-2006 04:46 PM

Super high MPG cars we may never see
 
I figured we should start posting pictures and links to cars with high MPG design that not avalible in north america, were in limited production, or never were for sale at all. These cars may not be tested by the epa so take the figures with a grain of salt.

https://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/02/loremof3-4.jpg

Loremo
20 hp, 2-cylinder turbodiesel = 157 mpg
50 hp, 3-cylinder turbodiesel = 88 mpg

https://www.autoblog.com/2006/02/27/l...-car-in-geneva
https://www.gizmag.com/go/5301/1/

https://www.canadiandriver.com/news/0...w1litre1-3.jpg

Volkswagen “1-liter” car
0.3L diesel, 8.5 horsepower= 265 mpg on a trip from Wolfsburg to Hamburg

https://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/gw/vw1litre.htm

https://www.jetcar.de/img/jet25ads.jpg

Jetcar 1.5/2.5
Fuel Economy: 149 mpg / 67 mpg urban-112 mpg extraurban
Top Speed: 68/100
0-60 mph: ---
Horsepower: 11/40
Drag Coefficient:---
Curb Weight: 859 lbs/ 1455 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults/ 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact


https://www.jetcar.de/english/index.htm

https://www.carpages.co.uk/toyota/toy...3_22_11_02.jpg
Toyota ES3 concept
Fuel Economy: 87 mpg
Top Speed: ---
0-62 mph: 10
Horsepower: 67
Drag Coefficient: 0.23
Curb Weight: 1543 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Compact

https://www.carpages.co.uk/toyota/toy...1_22_11_02.asp

https://www.autoplus.fr/horsserie/pho...gen-lupo-6.jpg

3L Lupo
1.2L three-cylinder turbo-diesel, 61 horsepower = 78mpg

https://www.usatoday.com/money/consum...w/mauto497.htm



https://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/cor...ges/i_ph01.jpg

Mitsubishi i concept car
Fuel Economy: 62 mpg
Top Speed: 115mph
0-60 mph: 10.6 seconds
Horsepower: 67
Drag Coefficient: 0.24
Curb Weight: 1741 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact

https://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/cor...nment/e/i.html

https://www.globalautoindex.com/image...orm_1_orig.jpg

Suzuki Twin
Fuel Economy: 80 mpg
Top Speed: 78mph
0-60 mph: 32.1
Horsepower: 44 HP
Drag Coefficient: -
Curb Weight: 1234-1322 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact


https://www.globalautoindex.com/news.plt?no=293#
https://www.stevejarvinmotors.com.au/suzuki/concept/

You car see some Kei cars from japan on this link (700cc around 50mpg)
https://japanoid.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Kei_cars



I will try to find more. Feel free to add cars.

The Toecutter 10-29-2006 06:27 PM

If anyone can, help me fill in the blanks marked with a '-'. We should create a database on this ****. The mpg figures are in U.S. gallons.


Below, I have listed cars that are currently unavailable.

Ford Prodigy

https://www.evworld.com/images/ford_prodigy2.jpg
https://www.evworld.com/images/ford_prodigy.jpg
https://forum.avtoindex.com/foto/data...igy_2000_2.jpg

Fuel Economy: 72 mpg
Top Speed: 80 mph (electronically limited)
0-60 mph: 12 seconds
Horsepower: 121
Drag Coefficient: .20
Curb Weight: 2,387 lbs
Seating Capacity: 5 adults
Classification: Midsize
Powertrain: 1.2L L4 turbodiesel coupled with an electric drive

GM Precept

https://www.evworld.com/blog/gm_precept_hev.jpg
https://www.geocities.com/joelado/Photos/GM-Precept1.jpg
https://www.automobilrevue.de/images/Precept1.jpg

Fuel Economy: 80 mpg
Top Speed: 85 mph (electronically limited)
0-60 mph: 11.5 seconds
Horsepower: 100
Drag Coefficient: .16
Curb Weight: 2,593 lbs
Seating Capacity: 5 adults
Classification: Midsize
Powertrain: 1.3L L3 turbodiesel coupled with an electric drive

Dodge Intrepid ESX3

https://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/A21591.jpg
https://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/A21589.jpg
https://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/A21590.jpg

Fuel Economy: 72 mpg
Top Speed: 90 mph (electronically limited)
0-60 mph: 11 seconds
Horsepower: ---
Drag Coefficient: .22
Curb Weight: 2,250 lbs
Seating Capacity: 5 adults
Classification: Midsize
Powertrain: 1.47L L4 turbodiesel coupled with an electric drive

Daihatsu UFE-III

https://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.c...1062147312.jpg
https://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.c.../296239714.jpg
https://www.jama.ca/photos/tokyo2005/i/dscn1120.jpg

Fuel Economy: 170 mpg
Top Speed: ---
0-60 mph: ---
Horsepower: ---
Drag Coefficient: .17
Curb Weight: 970 lbs
Seating Capacity: 3 adults
Classification: Compact
Powertrain: 660cc L3 turbodiesel coupled with an electric drive

GM Ultralite

https://www.carstyling.ru/resources/c...ltralite_2.JPG
https://www.carstyling.ru/resources/c...ltralite_5.JPG
https://www.carstyling.ru/resources/c...ltralite_4.JPG

Fuel Economy: 88 mpg
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 7.8 seconds
Horsepower: 111
Drag Coefficient: .19
Curb Weight: 1,400 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Compact
Powertrain: 1.5L L3 gasoline internal combustion engine

Toyota ES3

https://www.pungas.com/edis/es3.jpg
https://iteso.mx/~dn44745/preocupados...s/image008.jpg
https://www.ratspeed.com/reports/tms01/images/es3_1.jpg

Fuel Economy: 87 mpg
Top Speed: ---
0-60 mph: 10 seconds
Horsepower: 67
Drag Coefficient: 0.23
Curb Weight: 1543 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Compact
Powertrain: 1.3L L3 turbocharged gasoline internal combustion engine coupled with an electric drive

Mitsubishi i

https://media.mitsubishi-motors.com/c...0030925181.jpg
https://news.caradisiac.com/IMG/jpg/M...i-2_grande.jpg
https://www.gizmodiva.com/entry_image...ubishi_i_2.jpg

Fuel Economy: 62 mpg
Top Speed: 115 mph
0-60 mph: 10.6 seconds
Horsepower: 67
Drag Coefficient: 0.24
Curb Weight: 1741 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 660cc L3 turbocharged gasoline internal combustion engine

Mercedes Bionic

https://www.aurorasolarcar.com/stretc.../img/02_10.jpg
https://www.thecarconnection.com/imag...k/tmb/2244.jpg
https://www.motorpasion.com/archivos/...des_bionic.jpg

Fuel Economy: 55 mpg
Top Speed: 118 mph (electronically limited)
0-60 mph: 7.9 seconds
Horsepower: 140
Drag Coefficient: .19
Curb Weight: ---
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Compact
Powertrain: 2.0L L3 turbodiesel

Opel Eco Speedster

https://www.edge-inc.net/images/cars/GMECOSpeedster.jpg
https://www.autointell.com/News-2002/...edster-115.jpg
https://ritzsite.net/RAI03CON/Opel_Ec...r_2002_r3q.JPG

Fuel Economy: 94 mpg
Top Speed: 160 mph (electronically limited)
0-60 mph: 8.9 seconds
Horsepower: 112
Drag Coefficient: .20
Curb Weight: 1,455 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 1.3L L4 turbodiesel

Loremo LS/GT

https://www.motorpasion.com/archivos/..._geneva-01.jpg
https://cimg2.163.com/catchpic/0/06/0...8551548056.jpg
https://www.hostdub.com/albums/wikedg..._rear_view.jpg

Fuel Economy: 157 mpg / 88 mpg
Top Speed: 100 mph / 138 mph
0-60 mph: 19 seconds / 9 seconds
Horsepower: 20 / 52
Drag Coefficient: .20 / .20
Curb Weight: 992 lbs / 1,034 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults, 2 children / 2 adults, 2 children
Classification: Sub-Compact / Sub-Compact
Powertrain: L2 turbodiesel / L3 turbodiesel

VW 1-Litre:

https://www.genciencia.com/images/VW%201L.jpg
https://www.sarbach.de/images/vw1l.gif
https://carwallpapers.hu/wallpaper/vw...2%20-%2003.jpg

Fuel Economy: 235 mpg
Top Speed: 78 mph
0-60 mph: ---
Horsepower: 8.5
Drag Coefficient: .16
Curb Weight: 640 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 300cc one-cylinder turbodiesel

VW EcoRacer

https://www.leblogauto.com/images/vw_ecoracer.jpg
https://auto.kulichki.com/img/vw_eco.jpg
https://www.weblogsinc.com/common/ima...54672675053038

Fuel Economy: 69 mpg
Top Speed: 143 mph
0-60 mph: 6.3 seconds
Horsepower: 134
Drag Coefficient: ---
Curb Weight: 1,874 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 1.5L L4 turbodiesel

Jetcar 2.5

https://www.jetcar.de/img/start_06.jpg
https://www.evworld.com/images/jetcar25.jpg
https://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/images/jetcar_rear.jpg

Fuel Economy: 90 mpg
Top Speed: 100 mph
0-60 mph: ---
Horsepower: 40
Drag Coefficient: ---
Curb Weight: 1,455 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 600cc L3 gasoline engine

Renault Twingo SmILE

https://home.tiscali.nl/~hbsmits/greenpeace_smile.jpg
https://www.twingo.net/nicolas/detail4.jpg
https://www.twingo.net/nicolas/detail2.jpg

Fuel Economy: 71 mpg
Top Speed: 93 mph
0-60 mph: 14 seconds
Horsepower: 55
Drag Coefficient: .25
Curb Weight: 1,432 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 358cc L2 supercharged gasoline engine

VW Wundercar II

https://www.evworld.com/images/vw2liter.jpg

Fuel Economy: 118 mpg
Top Speed: 112 mph
0-60 mph: 12 seconds
Horsepower: 61
Drag Coefficient: ---
Curb Weight: 1,535 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 1.2L L3 turbodiesel engine

Vapor Fuel Technologies Alé

https://www.fvtec.com/assets/images/smside.jpg
https://www.fvtec.com/assets/images/headside.jpg
https://www.fvtec.com/assets/images/reartn.jpg

Fuel Economy: 92 mpg
Top Speed: 140 mph (electronically limited)
0-60 mph: 5 seconds
Horsepower: 180
Drag Coefficient: ---
Curb Weight: 1,490 lbs
Seating Capacity: 1 adult
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 1.5L L4 turbocharged gasoline engine


The following below are available in Europe but not in the U.S.

VW Lupo 3L TDI

https://www.dacunha.ch/pix/V_VWlupo.jpg
https://photos.blakeburn.me.uk/lupo_meet_3.jpg
https://www.fushiki-etsuro.com/VW_LUPO_GTI.jpg

Fuel Economy: 79 mpg
Top Speed: 102 mph
0-60 mph: 14.5 seconds
Horsepower: 61
Drag Coefficient: .29
Curb Weight: 1,828 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 1.2L L3 turbodiesel

Audi A2 1.2 TDI ASG

https://www.greenconsumerguide.com/tr...es/audi_a2.jpg
https://www.einfach-autos.de/bilderga.../audi-a2-1.jpg
https://www.autointell.net/News-2002/...FSI1-6-100.jpg

Fuel Economy: 78 mpg
Top Speed: 105 mph
0-60 mph: 14.5 seconds
Horsepower: 61
Drag Coefficient: .25
Curb Weight: 1,818 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Compact
Powertrain: 1.2L L3 turbodiesel

Suzuki Twin

https://www.e-style.gr/Images/Articles/suzuki_twin.jpg
https://media.autobild.de/bild/0/7f59...bc254f80_2.jpg
https://www.avtomarket.ru/content/news/4554_1.jpg

Fuel Economy: 80 mpg
Top Speed: 78 mph
0-60 mph: 32.1 seconds
Horsepower: 44
Drag Coefficient: ---
Curb Weight: 1,322 lbs
Seating Capacity: 2 adults
Classification: Sub-Compact
Powertrain: 660cc L3 turbocharged gasoline engine coupled with an electric drive

Opel Astra ECO4

https://www.carpage.hu/astraeco4.jpg
https://www.bilpriser.dk/picture.picture?newsid=167
https://www.opelmagazin.cz/files/eco4_3.jpg

Fuel Economy: 54 mpg
Top Speed: 109 mph
0-60 mph: 13.5 seconds
Horsepower: 75
Drag Coefficient: .28
Curb Weight: 2,820 lbs
Seating Capacity: 4 adults
Classification: Compact
Powertrain: 1.7L L4 turbodiesel engine

kickflipjr 10-29-2006 06:32 PM

Awesome! I really wanted this all in one area. Because we talk about certain car and then I forget about them.

The Toecutter 10-29-2006 06:36 PM

If anyone can find them, post all the specs I've posted on the veghicle you enter.

I may write a blog entry featuring these cars and explaining why they do so well in fuel economy. Perhaps even go into a little history of high mpg cars, like the 95 horsepower Opel GT diesel race car concept that returned 98 mpg and topped 124 mph in 1972.

CoyoteX 10-29-2006 06:41 PM

are these in US gallons or Imperial? Slight difference in the numbers depending.

The Toecutter 10-29-2006 06:42 PM

I posted them in U.S. gallons, converting figures I found through google and other search engines. The Eco Speedster, for instance, got 113 mpg imperial combined. That's 94 mpg U.S.

kickflipjr 10-29-2006 06:43 PM

It is some work convering.

kw to HP/ L per 100k to mpg/ imperial mpg to us mpg/ Kg to Lbs

but you already know.

kickflipjr 10-29-2006 06:56 PM

I will put mine in the same format as toecutter (the ones that he dosen't have).

Spule 4 10-29-2006 07:11 PM

Is it just me, or is the GM Precept remind one of a Tatra 603 if they were still building them? Knowing GM, maybe we will see it one day.....

The Toecutter 10-29-2006 08:01 PM

The Mitsubishi i does 0-60 mph in 10.6 seconds and tops 115 mph. See the following link, but later searches varified it:

www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.php?file=car.php&carnum=1757

I've also seen on evworld and elsewhere that the drag coefficient of the ES3 was .23 according to Toyota.

Also, there is more than one incarnation of the Jetcar. Are you referring to the 1.5, or 2.5 version? Or others?

The Jetcar 2.5 weighs 1,366 pounds, tops 100 mph. 67 mpg US urban, 112 mpg US extraurban. I don't know how the EU calculates combined cycle, but it may work out to the 94 mpg you listed. 40 horsepower is correct, of course.

The Jetcar 1.5 is a smaller version, returning 149 mpg U.S. with an 11 horsepower diesel and having a 68 mph top speed. It has a weight of 859 lbs. See the following two references:

https://www.jetcar.de/english/techdat_jetcar_15_eng.html
https://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?sect...le&storyid=573

The Suzuki Twin has a 78 mph top speed, 44 peak horsepower produced from both drives combined.


https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar...p_model=%20808
www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/nl/?car=109857


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