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MetroMPG 01-07-2007 07:55 AM

EPA ratings for Metros
 
I just discovered that the EPA has 3 completely different sets of ratings for the last generation North American Chev/Geo Metro / Pontiac Firefly (1995-2000).

red91sit 01-07-2007 08:31 AM

I have the same situation with my car! all 4 years are 5.0 liter PGMFI engines, with AOD transmissions. No mechanical changes, but check out my EPA's Highway mileage changes between 27, and 24!! That's like 11%

1986
MPG (city) 18
MPG (highway) 26
MPG (combined) 21

1987
MPG (city) 17
MPG (highway) 27
MPG (combined) 21

1988
MPG (city) 17
MPG (highway) 24
MPG (combined) 20

1989
MPG (city) 17
MPG (highway) 24
MPG (combined) 20

MetroMPG 01-07-2007 08:38 AM

That's weird.

Well, I'm heading to teamswift.net to see if anyone there knows if there are any differences between the last 3 years of Metros.

XFi 01-07-2007 08:54 AM

Interesting...I wonder if it has to do with any changing/stiffer emissions requirements. Maybe they changed the ECM programing.

They also could have seen the generous rating with the high EPA reported stats in the first place (compared to how the general public drove these-and what they actually got in MPG).

Let me know what you find out :)

red91sit 01-07-2007 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XFi
Interesting...I wonder if it has to do with any changing/stiffer emissions requirements. Maybe they changed the ECM programing.

They also could have seen the generous rating with the high EPA reported stats in the first place (compared to how the general public drove these-and what they actually got in MPG).

Let me know what you find out :)

That would make sense, seeing as they all go down in E.P.A. as the years go by.

AlexK 01-07-2007 07:23 PM

The EPA periodically revises the way they calculate the gas mileage ratings. You can use them to compare cars of the same year, but not cars across different years. The way they calculate is very arbitrary and unscientific:

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/how_tested.shtml

Look at the last paragraph. That's where they admit that they "adjust" the ratings downward to more closely match the real world. I read somewhere the adjustment is on the order of 20%. They also make up new rules sometimes like the air conditioner must be on, if equipped.


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