Mehbe toyota is scared of people doing what many did by saying "my prius only gets 45 mpg what!?!?" And therefore tries to tell them a good/bad without the numbers, which are a little less subjective...

Lessons were minimal. He let me drive and observed. When we were done, he said: "I could never drive like that. I'd go crazy." or something to that effect :)

I'm hoping the bro in-law just overlooked the "trip" FE feature in the manual. It seems like such a big oversight.

That's the way the Prius is. You have FE display but once you reset it that's it you lose the tank average:(

Also, no lifetime MPG like the Insight has. Had. Whatever.

The Camry hybrid is VERY difficult to get into a glide compared to my Prius. Seems to be a common "fault".

Wayne

Nice to get that comparison between the 2 cars Wayne. Thanks.

Talked to the bro in-law today: He says he's been pegging the eco-meter on almost every drive since I last saw him. :thumbup:

He said the scale stops around 5.8 L/100 km, which means he's doing around 41 mpg (US) or better. And this is on the car's first tank of gas. The tires aren't even pumped up.

I was thinking that tires might be one of the big differences as far as getting the car to glide/deadband. Maybe with some extra air it would be easier.

Spent about half an hour in the Camry today. My bro in-law found a nearly ideal "ring road" in a commercial area in Ottawa that permitted almost unmolested driving at P&G speeds.

We were able to squeeze 78.9 mpg (US) on this route from a warmed up car.

How fast were you going? (avg)