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Bill in Houston 07-29-2007 05:13 PM

Belly Pan, Rear Undertray, and Fender Liners
 
Okay, it's all done. I made the aforementioned pieces for my Element.

Belly pan:
Start with a giant piece of coroplast, and cut away everything that doesn't look like a belly pan. :-) The belly pan reaches fron the rocker panel on the driver's side, to the edge of the heat shields for the exhaust, which goes down the passenger's side of the car. I also made a smaller pan to cover the space between the passenger's side rocker panel and the edge of the exhaust system. Attachment points consisted of (from front to rear) anti-sway bar, pre-tapped sidestep holes, the bar that protects the gas tank, and the rear suspension subframe thing. This was all made easier by the fact that my E is a 2wd instead of a 4wd. AN IMPORTANT TIP: Get TWO giant pieces of coroplast. One to make the pan, and one to provide a nice smooth surface to roll around on, cuz you gonna be rolling around under there for HOURS.

Rear undertray:
Like most cars, the rear underside was shaped like a parachute. Pretty easy to cut a piece of coroplast to the right size, and then hold it in place with zipties around the antisway bar in the front, and tuck it between the rear bumper trim and the body in the back, held in place with the OEM trim clips.

Fender liners:
The insides of my rear fenders had a huge empty space, so I made it smaller. The liners follow the top of the wheel arch and are held by the OEM clips and screws that hold the exterior plastic panel to the metal subframe. There is not much suspension travel back there (verified by driving only one rear tire up onto a rhino ramp), so I think I'll be okay.

No rigorous testing has been done. The pieces do not tear themselves loose at 65 mpg, so that's one important hurdle out of the way... :-) Pics in the next post.

Bill in Houston 07-29-2007 05:24 PM

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Belly Pan Photos

This will bring a tear to any Element owner's eye. What is now a smooth covering was previously a gnarly looking jungle gym of the gas tank and gas tank protection bar.
https://www.gassavers.org/attachment....1&d=1185758668

If the camera had xray vision you'd be looking right at the gas tank.
https://www.gassavers.org/attachment....1&d=1185758668

This is looking toward the front:
https://www.gassavers.org/attachment....1&d=1185758668

And this is the side facing the exhaust pipe, left white to reflect heat. And I was also running low on spray paint:
https://www.gassavers.org/attachment....1&d=1185758668

Bill in Houston 07-29-2007 05:28 PM

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And the rear undertray. Very simple. Even if you don't ever make a belly pan, make one of these...
https://www.gassavers.org/attachment....1&d=1185759101

And the fender liner. Not much to see, and that's the point. Just a smooth covering that gets rid of the giant space in the fender well.
https://www.gassavers.org/attachment....1&d=1185759202

That's it! Thanks for looking! Ask questions if you have any!

MnFocus 07-29-2007 05:39 PM

Inspirational! The rear under tray looks great - and what I've been planning out also . Good to see a good example , Thank You !

Mentalic 07-29-2007 06:39 PM

Looks nice! Its hard to see if you have enough exhaust pipe clearance in the photo. I can verify from scars that they run very hot! :o

Been thinking about adding some tray under my 4runners step side rails. The front already has metal brush guards covering most everything.

GeekGuyAndy 07-29-2007 07:15 PM

Looks great! I was looking under my Subaru and have absolutely no idea where to mount a tray. The front has nice holes, but how did you mount it under the car other than the front/back edges?

Bill in Houston 07-29-2007 07:18 PM

Thanks guys. MnFocus, the rear seriously took less than an hour.

Mentalic, at one point the Coroplast belly pan did pop out and touch the muffler, and it melted a lot. I have added some more ties and I think I'm in the clear now. On the rear, I made a little shield out of a coke can that I think will protect that part. Thanks for bringing it up though. Coroplast IS flammable...

Bill in Houston 07-29-2007 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GeekGuyAndy (Post 66029)
Looks great! I was looking under my Subaru and have absolutely no idea where to mount a tray. The front has nice holes, but how did you mount it under the car other than the front/back edges?

Thanks. I did some different stuff for attachment points.

The front attaches to the antisway bar with zipties.

In the middle, I found some threaded holes that I was not using, and bought bolts to bolt the belly pan to those. There were also a few places where I made hangers out of a wire coathanger. Basically found a couple of holes next to each other, threaded the wire through, cut to length and bent it all how I liked, and then ziptied to that. This was necessary around and behind the fuel tank, since I didn't really want to tie anything to the fuel tank itself.

Does that help any?

GeekGuyAndy 07-29-2007 07:38 PM

So it sounds like nothing is too permanent. That makes it sound easier than I was originally thinking. I looked under my car and tried to think where I could attach a big flat piece and had little luck. Are there any other sections where you worried about heat and melting the plastic? I have no mechanical knowledge, so I didn't know if there were any spots that I should avoid covering. I guess I just need to raise the car up on something and take a better look.

sonyhome 07-29-2007 10:47 PM

You have to continue the thread and post MPG changes on HW and city if any. Using the same driving behavior of course - no cheating :)

Did you remove your air dam? Your MPG stats do not indicate any gains with it at first glance...

I haven't started my CR-V.. I'm not sure I'll use coroplast yet, though now I know where to get it.
I might go for rubber or something like that, which would be more car safe and soundproof too.

For now I'm slowly working on speakers (that don't fit :) )


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