Better Mileage in a Range
 

Hi I have a supercharged range rover sport and I was wondering any tips to get some better mileage. I'm averaging about 11 now and would like to get it up to 14 or so. Thanks in advance.

I suppose all the advice the Hummer guy got applies here too.

don't even think about comparing it to a hummer

Well, they both are gas guzzlers that are basically 99% useless...:D

Yup, same stuff as the Hummer post...

don't even think about comparing it to a hummer"

Too late!

Besides, the suggestions will be the same. Search for "hummer" here.

Will this one will actually get locked?

not from anything i say!

I suppose all the soundproofing, navigation, ride comfort, offroad/snow ability, and image is worth nothing since it doesn't get 20 mpg. I think I'm gonna get like 5 prius' and tow them in my range while they're idling so I can get negative mileage.

Um... ok? Put the keyboard down and back away slowly meng. As for the SUV, well... It's actually fairly decent with the .69 sixth and 3.73 rear end. Short of a taller sixth, a taller rear end might help a little, but the biggest problem I imagine would be keeping it in a decently tall gear with the auto. I say start with the basics. Drive 55, don't get in races to wait for reds, etc... A manual transmission with slightly better ratios driven well should be able to get it into the 20s for highway, but who knows whether the swap is worthwhile for ya.

Tutt Tutt! King Tutt! Can't take a little crackin' wise? You fired the first shot by being a Smarty Marty when Clencher suggested you look at the tips given to Hummer drivers for increased MPGs. But I can understand where you are coming from, especially about the "image" part. Tomorrow I'm gonna go see a man about hooking up my 'mouf with these:
https://izoom.buycostumes.com/mgen/me...=400,400,1,0,0

Then maybe us gangstaz can go out "riding dirty" together. :D

We have a winner!

When you're asking how to increase fuel economy -- all of the things you just mentioned are worth nothing - except a hindrance on fuel economy.

It's a compromise. Fine, you don't drive a Prius (no worries) - but you want to decrease fuel consumption (GREAT!). So give up all that soundproofing (do you need the extra weight?)
throw the navigation out (weight + energy draw)
changes you make may compromise comfort
Off road/snow ability -- I'm sure that's not helping fuel economy. If you have knobby tires, change 'em. Take the snow chains out of your car (unless/until you need them) etc. etc.
When you're going for big improvements, aero improvements will be a big deal (Especially on a car like that) - so you're likely going to compromise "image" in the sense of what the masses like.

These guys are giving you advice -- search for "hummer" and you'll find tips for a larger car like the one you've described ;)

Whoa, check out the tax depreciation comparison at the Rover site.
In old communist USA, car pays taxes for YOU!

Shiz like this makes me never wanna work over the table again...

Where's the jackass who is gonna point out that a Prius don't idle?

just a question: where do you live that you need 4wd? how much snow/off road do you accauly do? have you ever had a car with M+S or just plain snow tires on it before and drove in the snow?(serious question not trying to be a smart one) also what job do you have that you need to set an image?

Wow......

They don't? :D

Omaha, so 4wd is necessary like 4 month of the year. The image has nothing to do with any job.

ur dumb

4wd Toyota Tercel Wagon with a diesel pef!

And I take it you don't just work on rockets, you fly them, too?
Actually, I think you are the dumb dumb, since you need a wanna be Hummer to sport some kinda image. There are cheaper ways to compensate than driving a pimp mobile if you need help in that dept:

https://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11021...nt_System.html

And BTW, if you take some of the hot air outa your head and install it in your tires, you will be using one of the proven methods of increasing MPGs :D

Well since I doubt this thread is going anywhere, is it an 06 rover? Dont you guys have some kind of sport setting on your suspension that drops you an inch? Lower it, belly pan it then beat the hell out of it on the street, you wont get far off road in that thing otherwise.

I don't see the crime in a person wanting to increase the mileage in the vehicle they already own instead of buying a new one. I was getting 16MPG in my car and decided to keep driving it and improve my driving style over going out and finding something that would net me better numbers. At the time I did not have the funds for such a venture.

I don't see anything wrong with suggesting a change of vehicles, but I also think we should atleast answer the question instead of getting off on how bad the mileage is already. Obviously that has been realized and is the reason this post exists...

In answer to your original question, I think the biggest thing (if driving highway much) would be to keep the speed down. How far down depends on a lot of things. Getting something like a "scangauge 2" would tell you where your optimal speed is by giving you instant MPG readouts as you drive.

On that vehicle you may not want to be installing aero mods ( I know I didn't want to on my vehicle if not for the stupidity on such a classic fear of it's resalability ). Verifying that your engine is in tip top shape with a fresh tune up is a good thing. From what I understand having a turbo can HELP fuel economy if used correctly. Please correct me if I am wrong but from what I have read the goal is to use the boost without the computer thinking you need the extra power and enriching (throwing more gas in than need be). The scangauge should help to find that spot so that you can avoid it.

Good luck on your goal, you are a smart person to know where you are at and where you want to be. Hope we can help you get there!

All joking aside (don't think I didn't get a ration of $#@% when the Vintage Triumph Register and my SCCA buddies found out I had bought a Ford Escort wagon, it's been 20 years and I still get ribbed) the goal of 14mpg is definitely within reach.

The advise to get a scangauge II (links all over the place here) is probably the best. That's what will give you feedback immediately. My mileage in a Subaru Wagon went from 24 to 46 just by changing the way I was driving. Granted, I made some pretty big changes (it's fun, kinda like sport rally racing but slow, on purpose) but even with small changes I jumped from 24 to 32.

There are a lot of things you can do that will help mileage and help you in the snow as well. Taller, thinner tires come to mind first. I live in VT and see 18-36" snow falls on a regular basis and I used to work at a snowmobile shop. Hakkapelita and Dunlop both have some pretty efficient thinner tires that make a HUGE difference in the snow. (remember, you want the the tires to cut through the snow down to traction) And run higher pressure low rolling resistance tires in the other 9 months. The only reason to run wide tires on a big truck like that is sand racing and looks. I figure your not sand racing so find the thinnest rim/tire that you can stomach.

The belly pan is another really good idea. I put one on an old car I had just so it would slide over small snow drifts with out getting hung up on the frame/undercarriage. Smoothing out the airflow down there will make a huge difference I think.

But the scangauge? In your case it's going to be GOLD. (errr, no bling references intended.)

The other, more PC option is to get a plow truck and and smaller FE car. (me? I want a LOTUS. :D )

But I like Rovers, the 2 or 3 I've been around have been reliability nightmares, I hope yours is better.

BTW, I think "Basel" can do much better than 24... just sayin'

Oh, and welcome. :rolleyes:

Gee, I thought my F350 was a ripoff, mileage-wise. But it gets about 18 mpg overall. Finally I can say Neener, Neener, Neener! to someone who bought a worse fuel pig.

derange, some of your posts have a troll taint but I'll still give you the benefit of the doubt in case you're serious.

MPG is somewhat of a backwards measure so forgive me if I point a few things out in metric. Your current consumption is 21.4 litres per 100 kilometers and your goal is 16.8 LHK, a savings of over 4½ litres every hundred kms. You have a high consumption vehicle but you could save enough fuel by driving economically to keep a Prius in gas. There's an opportunity for big savings albeit that opportunity comes from a fairly excessive vehicle to begin with, especially the supercharged part. That said...

To achieve your goal, you have to recognize that your vehicle has to stay in its most efficient state as much as possible. That's probably a speed of about 33 - 40 mph. Use your trip computer to monitor your current mpg under enough conditions (roads are seldom flat and the wind is seldom still) so that you have an idea of what the vehicle can do on its own once warmed up steady state.

Next, you'll have to change your driving habits to try and keep your 5900# vehicle in that zone. That's a lot of weight to accelerate. With 400 hp on tap, your acceleration needs to be much gentler than what you might read about for some of the other cars, because any significant RPMs and your supercharger will kill your mileage. Likewise, short trips will kill your mileage since an engine uses a multiple (like 3 or more) of its normal flow per hour while warming up.

Hills are also an issue. What you'll need to do is try and get up to a good speed on the flats so that your inertia can climb the hill. The idea is to have the speed to get up the hill quickly without having to use much engine loading to climb it.

Likewise, you'll need to drive thinking way down the road so that you can anticipate traffic so that you can keep the changes in inertia to very small levels. You neither want to have to press the brakes nor touch the gas pedal anymore that you absolutely need to.

If you have body protection bars on the vehicle, you'd be well advised to remove them.

I look forward to your results. Will you be logging your consumption?

[QUOTE=derangedrover;72855]Omaha, so 4wd is necessary like 4 month of the year. The image has nothing to do with any job.[/QUOTE

I would like to know why 4wd is necessary. I live in Kansas city, mo. They don't plow my road until days after a major snowfall. My saturn has a goat like ability to go anywhere I need it to go on Mich harmony all season tires. Before this care I had a2wd dodge diesel with an open diff. All I needed to do was fill the bed with snow and again I could go anywhere.

Please don't get offended when people make suggestions to you, you have more vehicle than you need. We're not trying to put you on the defensive.

As for snow. Most fwd cars will do plenty good in the snow with some studded tires. I know in pittsburgh there are only a few days of the year that the roads are semi-slick (where 4wd might come in handy).

Where's Skewbe? and the GW relationship to range rover type vehicles.

sorry, I'm with the range rover dude who wants his comfort, his navigagtion and he also wants the best mileage he can get

in life there are trades, there are prices...some of us value confort more then others, some of us want performance more then others, some of us want convenience more then others

I have navigation on my car and it saves gas so I have no clue what you guys are on about saying he should turn this off

I have soundproofing and it keeps me from going crazy and getting into an accident...so I don't know what you guys are on about

I have a 260 horsepower engine on a tiny car and it goes really really fast

when I want it to

but most of the time I want a comfortable ride and I want to get the best fe possible in my comfortable ride

so this guy has a rover...there are things on the rover that are not on the hummer and visa versa and MAYBE someone on the board here allready discovered some things they can do with a rover that they CANNOT do with a hummer

for instance, he has a super charger...does the hummer?...I don't know, I never looked into hummers but I don't think so..super charged engines have compeletely differant issues then na engines

so the hummer thread might help but there might be other information the experts have that ddn't even get mentioned on the hummer thread
'
maybe

but according you you guys he shouldn't even ask

gots to say, I am disapointed in the attitude on this thread

A wanna be Hummer? Haha. What do you think the Hummers are trying to compete with...

Oh and real nice! I have a 90 thousand dollar car so OBVIOUSLY I am compensating for something. Idiot.

The ex-Buick engine isn't missed here...

Hey... the OP has a listed age of 17 and some of his responses...

That said, as for the vehicle itself it's too bad there are all the horsepower wars. Mercedes tends to be at the forefront of these.

If I were loaded and used to the best, I'd seriously consider one of these - but with the TDV8 that they sell in the UK. This vehicle is for a very select and elite demographic group that have the capacity to make a multiple of tons of CO compared to the normal Joe or Joann.

With a diesel, it's a pretty thrifty vehicle for someone to drive that could just as easily be in a Ferrari that's even less green. I'm gonna go check the mileage on it after this post. The Range Rover is an estate car that was attractive enough to be sold to people who would never ever want to see their vehicle do 1/10th off road what it is capable of. Only an H1 can go where a Range Rover can go, and then again if it's tight, the Hummer's out. Nope, the Range Rover is a Rolls Royce ultimate estate car the best SUVs and CUVs have strived to be.

The Range Rover just ends up being marketed against Lexus and Mercedes SUVs over here. Nobody spits at Rolls-Royce's or Maybachs here, well the number of Range Rovers on the road are next to none and if someone could afford a Range Rover (which actually lower their ride level at highway speeds for better aero, which none of this resourceful but often resource limited crowd here has ever done with their best attempts to top a individually-planet-saving Prius owner) then they could afford any exotic gas sucking car on the road and it's not bad. It's just that Lexus and Mercedes SUV buyers want as much horsepower as the super speed pickup truck set gets. SRT10? Come on folks, this vehicle is for rich people to take out into the country and go places off raod.

Just give me the diesel version and not too pimped that mud isn't occasionally a welcome guest!!! Oh yeah and the disposable capital to afford. I'll then not get that mean looking Rolls Royce or flying buttress butted five nine nine and I'll also make up for it by spacious sailing boats instead of offshore racing boats... okay? LOL

Nope... I'd love a diesel Range Rover! ;-)

"270 horsepower, and a gargantuan 472 lb-ft of torque"

And I'd get better mileage with a TDV8 than I get now! Knowing my luck, it sucks for legroom! L

Yeah I'm 17, you caught me? Regardless I started off by just asking some basic tips (I was thinking supercharger mods) that would give me some better mileage, and out of no where a bunch of people started trashing my car. At some point I have to say wow, you're a bunch of resourceful people with a horrible attitude towards somebody who doesn't want to drive around in a mismatched late 80's Ford so he can save $200 bucks a year on gas.

I would of loved a TDV8, but try getting one in the states.

I'll finally get around to posting here. Whatever car you've got, if you want to improve your mileage, that's good, na.

As for what you can do, as in, what you can *really* do, the best thing is just to combine trips, avoid driving, bike, get a beater or borrow a car when you can. When you get to a certain point a huge percentage gain might not make much practical difference compared to just not driving.

For example, in that car, my bike trip to the store today would've saved a whole gallon of gas, seems like a good deal to me.

As for the car itself, I would just try not to get on it too hard, poke around the site for some of the general tips for other cars and see what works for yours.

Sorry everyone wants to get whiney about it, but some of us here just have a rough sense of humor.

I don't see any supercharger mods being too helpful, unless you want to boost limit it to nothing...which might help.

What else...don't worry about being young. I was young when I started, too. Now I'm still young, :p

Source the engine and drop it in. It's legal in most places AFAIK. I never knew unstable bob was a bunch of people, but who knows?

thats why diesels are so great. do you have the 7.3?

Personally I'd love to get a diesel D90.....

Slightly random question, how at 17 do you have a 90k car?

I still think that lowering it, mounting a belly pan and enjoying on the street as it was meant to be would be the best for you. Depending how you are with tuners you might want to get into the ECU and drop your fuel curve down a notch or two so you aren't running as rich. Or setup some kind of water/meth injection and up the timing

Hahaha... We can all go back and see how this all started....

The first response was that the advice for the hummer should apply to your vehicle.... And then, out of nowhere, you became defensive instead of asking why....

Here's where you went wrong...
Where, instead, if you had asked where this advice was - you would have avoided this session that basically trashed your reputation here. You asked for advice, and it seemed like you didn't like it... And then defended what has proven to be a bad choice.

Please take this as advice - in my last post, nor in this one, do I intend to insult (they're just to the point)... It's just communal advice ;)

------
Now, it's obvious that you do want to be a part of this community... After all, you registered and came back after page 1's slugfest.

You can choose to ignore caustic responses (they're typically quite clear). And as a new member, it's typically best to avoid said posts for reasons found on page 1 :thumbdown:

------
So, I'm going to say it again....

If you're goal is to optimize fuel economy in any way... You need to compromise. There's no status quo when you're trying to change something (by definition). So, if I were in your situation... I'd start with a search for hummer and see what advice was given ;)

To my knowledge, SC modification is uncharted territory here. If you're going to make modifications, do post up in the experiments section (I'm sure people will find it interesting) -- you'll find what makes a test "good" (or closer to valid) in that same section :thumbup: