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Sludgy 09-08-2008 10:36 AM

Read it and weep
 
https://www.businessweek.com/magazine...pStories_ssi_5

GasSavers_BEEF 09-08-2008 10:40 AM

that sucks. I would get one if I were in europe

dkjones96 09-08-2008 10:57 AM

I would TOTALLY buy that car!

Looks like that design is coming over here to replace the current Focus. I think I may hold out on the new car for a bit! Even if it is gas that car is kinda slick!

dieselbenz 09-08-2008 12:29 PM

I would never buy a dirty diesel like that when the fuel costs 25% more than gasoline. I would be much more impressed with a gasoline engine that gets 52mpg.

GasSavers_BEEF 09-08-2008 01:20 PM

the fact is we won't see a car that gets 52mpg in the states, nor will we see this car in the states.

and diesel only runs 15-20% higer around here. gas hit over 4 at the max (I think it was 4.25) but diesel never hit 5. not around here that I remember

almightybmw 09-08-2008 09:39 PM

I will not weep. I'll just move countries.

dieselbenz 09-08-2008 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEEF (Post 117896)
the fact is we won't see a car that gets 52mpg in the states, nor will we see this car in the states.

and diesel only runs 15-20% higer around here. gas hit over 4 at the max (I think it was 4.25) but diesel never hit 5. not around here that I remember

48 city, 58 highway, 52 combined.
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/2008c...f.jsp?id=21632
This is on the realistic EPA cycle. Not he fantasy football euro cycle.

DarbyWalters 09-09-2008 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjts1 (Post 117881)
I would never buy a dirty diesel like that when the fuel costs 25% more than gasoline. I would be much more impressed with a gasoline engine that gets 52mpg.

Uneducated opinions like that are why they will not come to the USA. Diesel technology has made Diesel burn as clean or better than gasoline. A Diesel Hybrid would be the best combo available right now...then a small diesel...then a gasoline hybrid...then a gas sipper.

Lug_Nut 09-09-2008 03:59 AM

That's fine by me. Fewer diesels here means more diesel fuel supply. More diesel fuel supply means less pressure on the biodiesel supply I prefer.
You go on driving your 58 mpg gasoline-electric Insight and I'll drive my 50 mpg (50.224 on a recent 900 mile trip) 2005 Passat wagon on B100.
Want to compete on a total (including greenhouse gas) gram per mile emission rate? You'll need to get the gasoline powered vehicle up to 200 mpg to be greener.
Note my sig: I think, therefore soy

Sludgy 09-09-2008 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug_Nut (Post 117972)
Note my sig: I think, therefore soy

My fave is a derivative of Descartes: Coito, ergo sum.


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