over unity electric engine - your thoughts

molecule · 07-20-2006, 12:03 PM

i've been bedazzled by some torrent downloads on free energy
basic over-unity motors from 5-350 horsepower

the website listed in the pdf file is
www.fuellesspower.com
though i haven't visited yet

the idea has me churning that i could use electromagnets on my pistons
and bore out the combustion chambers to make more room

the idea of over-unity is harnessing energy from space and being able to 'create' more than you are given

though one end of the theory makes it impossible to achieve
the other end basically wins by summarizing the losses into a realm of negative energy...or something like that...
at least from what i have read/heard so far

but it definately has been and is being achieved
basic electric motors run on high power impulse moments from charged capacitors...
the capacitors receive their charge from inverted dc voltage to ac...
then the ac is filtered for positive square waves and amplified to over 10kv
the capacitors store the high voltage/low amp source and release it as high voltage/high amperage moments which are used to 'fire' the electromagnets
you can easily see the work created spinning the electromagnets shaft
there is also 'back emf' created which carries a significant amount of energy which can be harnessed as well

krousdb · 07-20-2006, 02:12 PM

I first learned about free energy a few years ago. My first reaction was disbelief due to the conservation of energy principle. But my assumption was that energy was being created from nothing, which is not the case if you study the details long enough. What is being claimed is that the extra energy that you end up with is basically converted from a form of energy that was previously unuseable. Therefore, my mind is open to the possibility...

Matt Timion · 07-20-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by krousdb

I first learned about free energy a few years ago. My first reaction was disbelief due to the conservation of energy principle. But my assumption was that energy was being created from nothing, which is not the case if you study the details long enough. What is being claimed is that the extra energy that you end up with is basically converted from a form of energy that was previously unuseable. Therefore, my mind is open to the possibility...

I used to be more open to stuff like this, until I compared these things to the gas pills, or the tornado.

Think of it this way. Free energy would be the single greatest invention in the history of mankind. It would end pollution, hunger, and the depleation of natural resources.

If someone really COULD do this, wouldn't it get more news coverage than, say, anything? Oil monopolies wouldn't be able to prevent this from getting out. It would be too big of a discovery. The Men in Black wouldn't be able to stop anyone.

So when one guy with a small website claims to want to sell you plans to build the greatest invention ever created, I'm a bit skeptical.

krousdb · 07-20-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Timion

Think of it this way. Free energy would be the single greatest invention in the history of mankind. It would end pollution, hunger, and the depleation of natural resources.

True, but in the wrong hands, it could be apocalyptic.

Food for thought....

JanGeo · 07-20-2006, 02:58 PM

Yeah great just what we need more energy aka heat on an already overheated world. Those guys in the pulse motor group are playing with coils and tuned circuits and meters that can't possibly measure the energy they actually put into the motors to keep them running and meters when exposed to high pulse energy of certain frequencies can give all sorts of erronious readings so they can't even read power in and out.

Mighty Mira · 07-20-2006, 03:13 PM

Coming soon to a website near you...

The free lunch engine!

It was going to solve world hunger, only the big food conglomerates bought it out. Plans only $59.95.

Mighty Mira · 07-20-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Timion

Think of it this way. Free energy would be the single greatest invention in the history of mankind. It would end pollution, hunger, and the depleation of natural resources.

Another thing is... if the guy really has produced his own perpetual motion machine (even if it is tapping supposedly unlimited cosmic energy of some kind), he doesn't need to make money selling plans on the internet. He can just hook it up to the power grid and get paid for the power. As he makes money from that, he can create more and more devices, not stopping until he is the richest man in the world. Until he can afford security, he can put a few solar panels on the roof in case anyone gets suspicious.

And it's not as if I won't entertain a good conspiracy theory. Conspiracy is the rule rather than the exception in history, but that's another story for another time.