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Old 04-24-2012, 07:50 AM   #31
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I say give Gasalene one more post to be specific and then if he doesn't then ban him for spam.
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:50 PM   #32
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260ish cents to 4 gallons? That's adding $ .65 to the price of each gallon treated or 18.5% to the cost of a gallon of gas assuming $3.50 per gallon which is about the current cost in my area, meaning there would have to be at least that 18.5% increase in mileage just to break even. I don't think there's a product out there that's going to do it. As far as beating EPA, I along with about everyone on this forum beat it by several miles per gallon. Just by driving at 50-55 MPH in my '88 Escort I can get near OLD EPA highway rating in local city/rural road driving and have on a few occasions achieved over 50 MPG on the highway. The OLD EPA rating on that car was 33 city, 42 highway, and 37 combined, the NEW EPA rating is 28 city, 38 highway, and 32 combined.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Power...rt&srchtyp=ymm

As you can see from my mileage log the lifetime average since I started tracking mileage on this web site has been 41.51 MPG and most of these miles have been local driving since the car has over 518K miles and I usually drive one of my better cars when going on highway trips. In order for me to benefit from your product I'd have to average better than 49.19 MPG.

If you're confident your product can produce those numbers and want to send me a sample premixed I'll gladly test it in the '88 Escort for the other forum members. If I had a product that I was that confident in I'd gladly give away a few samples in order to build my customer base and convince many members of fuel savings forum that the product was worth the cost. My tank size is 12.9 gallons so enough to treat one tank would be about an $8. investment for the chance of selling multiple versions of your product.

It seems the general consensus on this forum is "put up or shut up".
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:16 PM   #33
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You've been listening to gas company ads. They want you to buy their BRAND of gasoline. It's all gasoline. Different additives? Perhaps. Different amounts? Hmmm....
I don't read gas ads. I can't really say I've ever seen one. I buy gas at whatever station happens to be closest to me when the gas light comes on. The stuff I've been saying is coming from the pens of engineers who have written articles in the car mags I've read over the years.

I guess I'm a little put off by the "secret formula" jazz. Either come out and say what you're putting in there so someone here can test it out for himself, or be done with it. On this site, we are always hearing guys who try to sell this product or that product which have no results. I am wary of additives that could cause engine damage. Others here have bought products and taken the apart to show that they are flashing lights and resistors.

Let's see the formula and let the guinea pigs here put up their results.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:24 PM   #34
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I don't read gas ads. I can't really say I've ever seen one. I buy gas at whatever station happens to be closest to me when the gas light comes on. The stuff I've been saying is coming from the pens of engineers who have written articles in the car mags I've read over the years.

I guess I'm a little put off by the "secret formula" jazz. Either come out and say what you're putting in there so someone here can test it out for himself, or be done with it. On this site, we are always hearing guys who try to sell this product or that product which have no results. I am wary of additives that could cause engine damage. Others here have bought products and taken the apart to show that they are flashing lights and resistors.

Let's see the formula and let the guinea pigs here put up their results.
Hi, "fetch", et al....

OK, guys. I'll tell you what this material is; I'll also tell you - to run out & quickly try it out & get in deep dog poo because you haven't a clue as to what you've done (by not doing something) you'll scream at me... right? This is exactly why it took me so long to "polish" this idea. I'm just trying to get your attention by steering your questions without making brash claims.
All this reference to "outside experts" (engineers & otherwise) not agreeing is without merit. I'm an engineer, too; I can talk the talk & walk the walk.

So - without further ado, the material in question is napthalene (an insecticide). NOT paradichlorobenzene (also an insecticide)! You must prepare it a certain way; mix it a certain way; take certain precautions when handling; and be prepared to answer some questions by the various "experts" who'll question what you are doing when refueling. But do not expect me to tell you how / when / why to "handle" it. This info comes with the technology package offered.You can, however, get it at the box stores, hardware stores, drug stores, dime stores and some grocery stores(altho' it is a poison).

Does it burn? You bet...under the right conditions. So does grain dust. And granite dust. "Dust" is the key word, here.
I'll be here...to explain why you've got/had misgivings about using this in your ride. I'll also try to answer questions. Shoot....
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I don't read gas ads. I can't really say I've ever seen one. I buy gas at whatever station happens to be closest to me when the gas light comes on. The stuff I've been saying is coming from the pens of engineers who have written articles in the car mags I've read over the years.

I guess I'm a little put off by the "secret formula" jazz. Either come out and say what you're putting in there so someone here can test it out for himself, or be done with it. On this site, we are always hearing guys who try to sell this product or that product which have no results. I am wary of additives that could cause engine damage. Others here have bought products and taken the apart to show that they are flashing lights and resistors.

Let's see the formula and let the guinea pigs here put up their results.
Gasalene here. I don't see my post (made yesterday). Why?
In this post, I told everyone reading them exactly what the "secret" (I never used this word) ingredient was ... but not how much & how mixed & such.
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Scroll down. The post is there.
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:30 AM   #39
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Gasalene here. I don't see my post (made yesterday). Why?
In this post, I told everyone reading them exactly what the "secret" (I never used this word) ingredient was ... but not how much & how mixed & such.
Hmmm.... I just saw the "Dr. Quack" postings. I'm a "newbie"; ie, not PC savvy so I cannot respond other than like a kid might. I am not a spammer; I use chemistry quite well. And I have a technology I have developed over the years; it is for sale; it works for me; it works for the many customers I've had.
Even with alcohol added to the gasoline; even in foreign lands ... where the gasoline is crap. Give it away? Why should I ? Would you?
If you had "taken apart" fresh pump gasoline (like I have) you would be amazed at what you can get for fuel these days. Remember "the arab oil embargo"? At around this time (1973), gasoline quality began a long slide. But this forum is not the place for these findings.
I can be contacted at [ chembustion at yahoo dot com ] if anyone is interested in further comments or ordering info. Please note I haven't used this forum to promote anything ... just to say this technology exists.
Is this spamming??? Pardon me....
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Re: Chemically modify the gasoline.

As has been mentioned earlier, we have had folks join the forums, and chat for a while about wonderful technology, that eventually turns out that they can sell to our members... for a price. Granted, its not like the "drive by" spammers that drop their links and run, but so far, all we are seeing is a long, drawn out sales pitch.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, which is why your posts haven't been deleted, but we're strong skeptics here. We've seen a lot. Any device or additive you can think of, we've probably had someone that tried it.
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