HAI Experiment

[GasSavers_NovaResource]

Check my gas logs. I may not have been HERE for a year but I have personal logs for over a year and 17,278.4 miles.

And how much of that is attributed to the WAI? And if the WAI helps, why is your winter mileage still lower?

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[Philip1]

Originally Posted by LxMike

philip: I see in first pic for the hot air your Sg showing 139. What readings did you get with the cold air intake??

Yes I was indicating 71f at the beginning of the cold air cycle and at the end 73 exactly 3f above ambient.

[GasSavers_BEEF]

the way the HAI works is that it warms the air more than ambien. you are limited by the outside air temp in that matter. during the summer, I saw a max of 179 degrees on my IAT and during the winter, it has barely seen tripple digits. does that make sense? if not, I can't help you.

also, talking about aerodynamic cars and EPA. it should be the same for all vehicles. you actually have an advantage over me as your EPA number is so low. a few miles to the gallon will easily raise your percentage substantially where as mine takes a large mpg difference to show a percentage jump.

also as far as aerodynamics. I have gottne 26 mpg in my wife's element hauling wood with it. EPA is 20 mixed. and you can't argue aero on a truely brick shaped vehicle. plus it is all wheel drive and an auto. and just to add, that run (you know, the 26mpg one) was 250+ miles.

I am sure you want to see an experiment to back that one up. go ahead, shoot. you are getting good at it.

*edit* the element does have a small grill block and a WAI that was from the factory and she usually sees about a 20 degree difference from ambient. go honda

[GasSavers_NovaResource]

Hypercritical sarcasm.

[GasSavers_BEEF]

no, didn't miss them. just noticed they were preceeded and followed by 23 mpg tanks.

figured you were having problems with gas pump differences yourself.

*edit* it's amazing that the one small thing about my wife's car was all you got from my post. I really need to stop posting on this one.

[Jay2TheRescue]

Those don't work at all. I bought a one of those for Rusty, my 1986 Chevy C-10 years ago. The damn thing never increased mileage. I ended up ripping it out. Its sitting on a shelf in my parent's garage right now. I should just throw the damn thing away, but the fact I paid $70 for it, well I just can't do it. It just sits on the shelf as a reminder. A few years ago I thought about buying those gas line magnets. I saw the tornado sitting on the shelf in the garage, and decided against it... So it has saved me money. It reminds me not to spend money on a lot of this heavily advertised crap that usually doesn't work.

-Jay

[Philip1]

OK without any raised dander I have a question or two for Nova resource. what is your tire pressure? have you considdered LRR tires for either vehicle? they seem to have helped some on mine. And finally perhaps a grille block of some sort might help reduce the radiator induced drag. Just offering a couple ideas that may help.

[GasSavers_NovaResource]

Originally Posted by BEEF

no, didn't miss them. just noticed they were preceeded and followed by 23 mpg tanks.

figured you were having problems with gas pump differences yourself.

That may very well be true (and my point about philip's experiment). And some of it had to do with how much A/C use I was using in June/July as well as the equipment I was carring around for softball during the summer.

BTW, about your signature, there is no "e" in Toby McKeehan name. Yes, I know who DC Talk is.

[GasSavers_maximilian]

Philip1, I noticed your grille block looks like it's underneath the grille, rather than on top of it. Do you ever wonder if it would cause even less drag if it were smooth? Be a lot more work I imagine. Maybe not worth it?

[GasSavers_BEEF]

toby mac, duely noted and recitified.

I just wonder, you have all of these gas log entries with no data by them. I am being sincere on this one (at least trying to be) why haven't you done any of these things to better your mileage.

I understand the limitations of your wife's vehicle. I actually started a thread about that a while back for my wife and her vehicle. but did you really not know? is this your first run in with modifications to your car to get better mileage? if so that's fine, but you seem to be taking a hard ball approach to finding things out.

do you have a scangauge? that is worth a good 20% right there and anyone would tell you that.

(this post was meant to be sincere and without sarcasm in any way)